another nice feature of dpkg is: --get-selections --set-selections When I back up my Debian boxes I only do the data and config files I really need to save space on tape. At backup time I create a list of installed apps: dpkg --get-selections > APPS_FROM_OLD_MACHINE So for recovery I can take a brand new machine and after doing a base install do: dpkg --set-selections < APPS_FROM_OLD_MACHINE complete with an: apt-get dselect-upgrade and know that it will be running everything I had before. Then I can lay the backup tar on top of it to get my configs back. NOTE: This is easier typed than done and it took me a few weeks to get it right. Do not try this at home without adult supervision. JLF Sends... It seems like on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 12:23:23AM -0700, plug@arcticmail.com scribbled: Orig Msg> I never use dselect any more. Typical usage of apt: Orig Msg> Orig Msg> apt-get update # Update the local package index Orig Msg> apt-cache search game # Search the local package index for Orig Msg> # the word "game" Orig Msg> apt-cache show freeciv # Display details about the "freeciv" package Orig Msg> apt-get install freeciv # Download and install the "freeciv" package Orig Msg> # and any packages upon which "freeciv" depends Orig Msg> apt-get dist-upgrade # Download and upgrade every currently installed Orig Msg> # package to the latest version Orig Msg> apt-get remove freeciv # Uninstall the "freeciv" package Orig Msg> Orig Msg> Orig Msg> I do some things with "dpkg": Orig Msg> Orig Msg> dpkg --list # List all installed packages Orig Msg> dpkg --listfiles freeciv # List all of the files that belong to the Orig Msg> # "freeciv" package Orig Msg> dpkg --search /bin/ls # Display the package that owns /bin/ls Orig Msg> dpkg --install foo.deb # Install a .deb that you stumbled across Orig Msg> Orig Msg> Orig Msg> Once you're comfortable with "potato", you can live on Orig Msg> the edge. Back up your system, alter /etc/apt/sources.list Orig Msg> to use "woody" instead of "potato" and simply do Orig Msg> Orig Msg> apt-get update Orig Msg> apt-get dist-upgrade Orig Msg> Orig Msg> and your system will now have the latest that woody Orig Msg> has to offer. I've been running woody (and doing Orig Msg> update/dist-upgrade about once a week) for some time Orig Msg> now, and haven't had any problems.