Redhat charges now for priority FTP access & anyone that uses Redhat knows that their public FTP server is generally difficult to get on. Seems pretty clear that Debian is a committed free venture whereas Redhat is and apparently always will be a commercial enterprise. Their hope is to commercialize added value. It may very well be the thing that kills apt. Craig -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Joel Dudley Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:48 AM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: redhat tries apt-get I am just saying that Debian provides a very robust apt-get soution for free. I have no problem with RedHat making money, but charging money for updates seems weird to me. I know you can still update manually, but why charge for this new feature? I would gladly pay redhat for support, but not updates. I mean even M$ doesnt charge for NT service packs. Am I looking at this thing the right way? I am no businessman and I have nothing against companies like RedHat finding ways to make money and putting out pretty decent software. But this still rubs me the wrong way. Maybe someone could enlighten me. - Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: Lucas Vogel To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:29 PM Subject: RE: redhat tries apt-get So what's the big deal? -----Original Message----- From: Joel Dudley [mailto:joel@silverw.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:13 PM To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Subject: redhat tries apt-get Looks like RH 7.0 is going to make a stab at the whole apt-get idea in 7.0, but you have to pay for it? What is up with that?? One more reason for me to switch to Debian. - Joel