FWIW, we've had nearly a dozen servers built around an Intel N440BX mobo varying from PIII 450 w/ 256MB ECC RAM to PIII 600 w/ 1GB RAM, all single processor but capable of upgrade to dual. No problem at all with them. I'm not suggesting that Dell's a bad choice, just that it can be less expensive to roll your own. P.S. Fry's has a "Quantum Atlas III" 18GB SCSI-3 drive for 'bout $219 now (normal $269?). They run really hot, but if you stick em into one of the removable carriers w/ dual fans in front they're quite the happy little storage solution. I'm also in love w/ the Adaptec AAA-131U2 for cheap, _fast_ RAID. Very reliable. 3 of the Quantums, 3 carriers and the Adaptec and you've got 36GB at RAID 5 for somewhere around $1600... Personally, I wouldn't bring up a production server without RAID. Steve > Mark Peoples wrote: > > I only trust Dell PowerEdge servers, but I'm sure others > have had success with custom-built stuff too. > > For the workstations, try looking at the netpc deals that > MSI has. www.msicomputer.com I'll probably get a few of > these myself for terminals around the pad (eg, one it the > kitchen to look at recipes, one in the crapper for sunday > morning news, etc etc) since they aren't very expensive > and are somewhat flexible. -- Carpe cerevisiae