I think you all have made some very valid points in defense of open source. I also see the validity in the original posters viewpoint. I was weened on windows and found some of the way things work in linux to be irritating at first. Personally it took me a month of experimenting with Mandrake 7.1 (that I bought) and it never did run to give up and try some other flavors of Linux.Then went back to Mandrake tried an ftp install which worked perfectly the first time. I persevered with it in light of throwing my hands up and walking away a number of times. I believe if you really are interested in computers linux is the perfect O/S because of the incredble capabilities contained within. linux is especially user friendly if you like to program and want to customize your O/S to your own machine/preferences try that with windows huh? Anyways Linux is an adventure to me and I'm enjoying it. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 3:52 PM Subject: Re: FW: Why Open Source Sucks for the Consumer > > > >>>Linux is not only not ready for prime time its not even ready for > >>>pay-per-view. > > When speaking of the server this is patently false; when speaking of the > desktop, it is completely accurate, but with a few qualifications. If > "prime time" means an ordinary end-user (your barber or your mom), then, > imho, no, linux is not ready for "prime time." > > All of us know that 'end-users'(remember, your barber or your mom): > > a) never want to leave the mouse. > b) want wizards to do everything for them. > c) don't want to read documentation for 2 hours to find out how to change > something. (I should amend that to "don't want to read documentation even > to save their own lives.") > d) want to use a computer for a specific task (email, web, MP3s) and don't > _want_ to know how or why the computer does what it does. > e) fear the command line > e) uh, the list is endless... > > Is linux 'ready' for that? No. The real question is _should_ linux be > made to accomodate the end-user in those ways. I think there is a segment > of the community that doesn't want linux ever to be "user friendly" _in > those ways_. > > Now this is the part where someone says "X can be used in just the ways > you describe." My only answer to that is "sit your barber in front of X > and see what happens." > > What I've stated above has nothing to do with Windows. (well, yes it > does ;) ). I would not call Windows "user-friendly" either, but it all > depends on your definition of "user-friendly." My definition of > user-friendly (and prob. yours) is much different from your barber's. > > My definition of user-friendly is "flexible, well-documented, with > everything under my direct control." > > Your proverbial barber wants a black-box that does things _for_ him: he > wants a AOL. He obviously doesn't want what's "best," he wants what' > s _easy_. > > And yes, part of the problem is that people have had Windows and nothing > else for so long that they want everything else to work in the same way > (interface-wise). > > just my 2 cents... > > todd > > > -- > > > > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss