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On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, J.L.Francois wrote:

> 
> See my comments below.
> 
> It seems like on Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 03:09:51PM +0000, Nathan Saper scribbled:
> Orig Msg> 1) The default install has some obvious things missing.  (I did the
> Orig Msg> default install cus I was feeling lazy.)  For one, it's missing important
> Orig Msg> devel libraries, such as the ncurses static libraries.  This seems like
> Orig Msg> something that should be included in the base install.  That's just one
> Orig Msg> example; there are others.
> 
> The base install is just that.
> Everything else gets added as needed.
> The odds of your Debian box getting 0wn3d are a lot less
> than a default RedHat install because at least on the Debian box
> you *know* what you installed.
> 

Still, when I select C/C++ devel, I want to get all of C/C++ devel.  Just
a personal thing.

> Orig Msg> 
> Orig Msg> 2) Doesn't configure X during install.  This doesn't bother me,
> Orig Msg> but I can see where a new user would be pretty freaked just looking at a
> Orig Msg> command prompt.
> 
> I like this feature.
> Servers don't run X.
> If I was building a server box I would not want a distro that installs
> it by default.
> I recomment Stormix to new users that want the power of Debian with 
> a KDE/Gnome desktop.

I like that it doesn't install X by default, but if someone selects X,
I'd think it should be configured as part of the install process.

> 
> Orig Msg> 3) Dselect is weird.  This is just a personal thing; I know some people
> Orig Msg> love dselect, but I'm having issues with it.  For example, even if I tell
> Orig Msg> it to just grab one package, it ends up wanting to grap 35mb worth of
> Orig Msg> shit.  What I'm doing right now is just using dselect to find packages,
> Orig Msg> then getting them with apt-get.
> Orig Msg> 
> Orig Msg> Just my first impression.  Debian certainly seems to be a cleaner system,
> Msg> but Redhat's definitely easier to set up.
> 
> Use apt-get instead.
> 
> Examples:
> 
> apt-get install minicom
> apt-cache search minicom
> apt-cache show minicom
> 

Was not aware of the apt-cache tool.  Thanks.

> So after a base install if I want a gnome tool but don't know how 
> to install it by name I can do:
> apt-cache search gnome
> apt-cache show gnome-dv
> apt-get install gnome-dv
> 
> and I am done.
> 
> If a major change occurs I can do:
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade
> and upgrade in place.
> 
> HTH. HAND.
> 
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> 
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