See my comments below. It seems like on Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 03:09:51PM +0000, Nathan Saper scribbled: Orig Msg> 1) The default install has some obvious things missing. (I did the Orig Msg> default install cus I was feeling lazy.) For one, it's missing important Orig Msg> devel libraries, such as the ncurses static libraries. This seems like Orig Msg> something that should be included in the base install. That's just one Orig Msg> example; there are others. The base install is just that. Everything else gets added as needed. The odds of your Debian box getting 0wn3d are a lot less than a default RedHat install because at least on the Debian box you *know* what you installed. Orig Msg> Orig Msg> 2) Doesn't configure X during install. This doesn't bother me, Orig Msg> but I can see where a new user would be pretty freaked just looking at a Orig Msg> command prompt. I like this feature. Servers don't run X. If I was building a server box I would not want a distro that installs it by default. I recomment Stormix to new users that want the power of Debian with a KDE/Gnome desktop. Orig Msg> 3) Dselect is weird. This is just a personal thing; I know some people Orig Msg> love dselect, but I'm having issues with it. For example, even if I tell Orig Msg> it to just grab one package, it ends up wanting to grap 35mb worth of Orig Msg> shit. What I'm doing right now is just using dselect to find packages, Orig Msg> then getting them with apt-get. Orig Msg> Orig Msg> Just my first impression. Debian certainly seems to be a cleaner system, Msg> but Redhat's definitely easier to set up. Use apt-get instead. Examples: apt-get install minicom apt-cache search minicom apt-cache show minicom So after a base install if I want a gnome tool but don't know how to install it by name I can do: apt-cache search gnome apt-cache show gnome-dv apt-get install gnome-dv and I am done. If a major change occurs I can do: apt-get update apt-get upgrade and upgrade in place. HTH. HAND. JLF Sends... This message brought to you by General Necromancy: "At General Necromancy, we bring dead things to life."