ICMP is usually host or segment specific (selective IOW)... At least in my
experience.  I don't think it would be sane for an ISP to globally block
ICMP traffic.

* Blake

----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig White" <CraigWhite@AzApple.com>
To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: DSL reccomendations? anyone using PSN?


> I know for a fact that Cox@home/@work, Sprint Broadband(speedchoice),
PSN's
> DSL, primenet DSL & System Solutions DSL, infinet-is all allow icmp since
I
> use a periodic ping to verify that a VPN is still up. I have yet to see a
> provider that blocks your ability to ping and if I run in to a provider
that
> blocks them, I probably would go elsewhere.
>
> Craig
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Norman
> > Lund
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 10:09 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: DSL reccomendations? anyone using PSN?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > they filter out ICMP echo packets, which prevents people from getting
> > > pinged (panged, pung, pong'd?).. The techs do it to prevent people
from
> > > getting or performing ping floods...
> > >
> >
> > How can they function without ICMP?  Just wondering... Unless it's
> > selective, I thought that ICMP was a heartbeat style protocol?  I could
> > understand not allowing ICMP packets into their routers.. but
> > through them?
> >
> > Norman Lund
> > normanlund@kaos-solutions.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Peoples" <hondaman@mainex1.asu.edu>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 8:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: DSL reccomendations? anyone using PSN?
> >
> >
> > > They must have an elaborate filtering mechanism...I pinged a site
inside
> > of
> > > fastq just fine, as did bb
> > >
> > > ...that site pinged outside too
> > >
> > > netbios isn't working though...damn, no more telecommuting
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marc Chung [mailto:mchung@asu.edu]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 4:49 PM
> > > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > > Subject: RE: DSL reccomendations? anyone using PSN?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Last time I heard you couldn't ping out of the fastq network
> > > > or use netbios (which that is kind of understandable)..
> > >
> > >
> > > ~m
> > >
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