Because proving you are right in a court of law costs money. To prove that UUMCUINT is a Cracker Haven[tm] takes more money than I have. The 1st Amendment is about Free Speach, not Free Legal Counsel. Please look up SLAPP in any legal dictionary/site. It is cheaper for me to turn crackers attempts in my logs over to the AttyGen Office and the FBI than deal with a blacklist of National ISPs that will let loose the landsharks on a whim. National ISPs will listen to LEAs after they blow me off like EXXXXS did after a 2 hour cracker spree in my logs elicited *no* response from the abuse department and security department. It seems like on Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:08:39PM -0700, Brian Cluff scribbled: Orig Msg> > I would prefer to shame the providers but some of the attacks come from Orig Msg> > countries that have no laws against system probes and of course there is Orig Msg> the Orig Msg> > liability of calling a network a Cracker Haven[tm]. Orig Msg> Orig Msg> OK, I curious. What exactly is the big deal with calling a particular Orig Msg> network a cracker haven?... Especially if you can prove that that it seems Orig Msg> to be. I know that if someone said suck things about my ISP. I would Orig Msg> initially say "HEY", then I would clean up my act, and make sure that my Orig Msg> network isn't being used to attack other networks. Orig Msg> Orig Msg> Orig Msg> Orig Msg> _______________________________________________ Orig Msg> Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Orig Msg> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss JLF Sends... They say: "Madness takes its toll." Please have exact change...