> I would prefer to shame the providers but some of the attacks come from > countries that have no laws against system probes and of course there is the > liability of calling a network a Cracker Haven[tm]. OK, I curious. What exactly is the big deal with calling a particular network a cracker haven?... Especially if you can prove that that it seems to be. I know that if someone said suck things about my ISP. I would initially say "HEY", then I would clean up my act, and make sure that my network isn't being used to attack other networks.