I agree with you both. I have met David's children, so I know he is doing a good job, they;re great kids. I think what David's point was that even though that little girl had accidently hit the wrong URL, so what. My daughter has done the same. Good home teaching/office policies are what dictate whether you or the child decides that it was, indeed, the wrong place to be. And, as a result, decide to stay or go. It's a tough line to be on when you are in the technoligical drivers seat. Mike On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:24:13AM -0700, Kevin Saling wrote: Heh, I'm not trying to create a totalitarian network where the filtering is absolute. All I'm trying to do is provide some guidance for kids and avoid the accidental filth from popping up on the browser. If kids want to seek it out, it's not within my power to prevent it... they _will_ find it. That's a parental guidance issue, not a technological one. I'm only interested in preventing the accidental exposure to inappropriate material (as defined by the party in charge of the filter) for the younger ones. If you don't believe this is a problem, consider this little incident that got me started down this road. A child was web surfing with her mother looking for a friend's birthday gift. The child had seen www.generationgirl.com advertised on a box of cereal. She mistakenly typed in www.girl.com and gave her mother quite a shock. Anyway, philosophy aside, my understanding is that squid does _not_ provide access to the data stream. ActiveGuardian has serious compile issues and JunkEx (once I finally got it installed with help from the developer in Germany) doesn't work for this purpose. I am now considering writing my own proxy that will simply pipe the datastream through a perl script or something before delivering it to the browser. Any page that matched one of the keywords would have the entire contents between and replaced with a text message. Simple, but probably very slow. Not to mention, I have NO idea how to code this. ...Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of > sinck@owmyeye.ugive.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 7:50 AM > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: My crusade for web content filtering > > \_ I am trying to create a web content filter at the choke point > of my network > \_ that will provide a safe web surfing environment for children > downstream (on > \_ the internal LAN). > > My particular bent on this is that you shouldn't filter *at all*. If > little Jack is interested on how the birds and bees fit together, he's > gonna find out one way or the other. Maybe visiting the library and > looking at the 'art' books. If Jill wants to find out about doobies > and gnapster isn't providing her the brotherly answer already, then a > side trip, again, to the accursed public library will. Or, as > mentioned before, jargon + JLF-proxy.... ---[snip]--- _______________________________________________ Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- V/R Mike Starke mstarke@mobl.com public key "http://www.neta.com/~mgcon/downloads/mstarke_public.txt" chgrp -R USMC /home/*