Legato's software packages that I worked with: Legato Cluster, Legato
Co-StandbyServer (formerly Vinca), StandbyServer (for NetWare mainly).
Mainly it was our wish to be able to control these boxes and use them as a
fail-over disk solution for our customers.  But as you well know, netapp has
a proprietary OS on the servers, making it very hard to control them (or at
least from Legato's devlopers viewpoint).  I never got into the gory details
of the development of the software, I was Tier 3 support/buck-stops-here.
:) 

As far as EMC vs. Netapp, I'm sure they do perfectly well for what you need.
But do look at EMC, what they offer may surprise you.

*  Blake


-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Furrer [mailto:jonny@jofu.com]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:04 PM
To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
Subject: RE: bit off topic -> NetApp


What are you refering to by I wish my software supported this? A netapp is
pretty much a server within itself. If you can mount NFS or SMB you can
mount off of and use a netapp. I have no experience with EMC, and its no
surprise to me that the netapp rep didn't include them in our most recent
presentation (every now and again we get taken out to lunch by our rep so
he can go over the latest and greatest netapp has and try to make a new
sale). But according to their pressentations they are growing rapidly, so
it may not be long till, if they're not close already, they're noticed as
the industry leader. I will say that we use them, as you suggested, in a  
datacenter environment, and I can't imagine life without it. Regarding
just about everything from quotas to mounts to management, these boxes get
what needs to be done for us :-) Oh, and regarding making back-ups a
dream, using Veritas and our filer I would have to say yes, its rather
dreamy :P

_______________
Jonathan Furrer
jonny@jofu.com
http://www.jofu.com/

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Barnett, Blake wrote:

> During my work for legato in their High Availability department, there was
a
> lot of talk about these boxes.  Most of it was "I sure wish our software
> supported these things."  They do some pretty nifty things, and can
simplify
> the life of any datacenter admin.  
> 
> But the industry leader is EMC, bar-none.  They are at least 3 years ahead
> of the competition, and if you can afford a netapp, then a symetrix(sp)
> can't be too far off from your budget.  And let's face it, when the stock
> market ranks a companies stock at #1, you have to think they are doing
> something right.  Their ESN (enterprise storage network) systems are truly
> amazing.  I'd really suggest comparing what netapp has to offer to EMC.
> 
> *  Blake
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Starke [mailto:mgcon@neta.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 4:28 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: bit off topic -> NetApp
> 
> 
> HAs anyone had any experience with Network Appliances?
> http://www.netapp.com
> 
> I am considering getting one installed (~450Gb filer) to help me
> manage disk space a bit better. I have 2 Sun's, 10 Linux servers,
> about 80 desktops and a 2 NT servers. Running a SCSI tape off of one
> of their filers would sure make backup's a dream :-)
> 
> 
> Mike
> mgcon@getnet.com
> http://www.getnet.com/~mgcon
> Phoenix, AZ
> USA
> 
> 
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