Sounds like the ole days in the Corp......Had nothin to work with,
yet we proved them wrong each time. :-)


Mike
mgcon@getnet.com
http://www.getnet.com/~mgcon
Phoenix, AZ
USA

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Digital Wokan wrote:

> Believe me, if I could get past their mentality of making me justify a
> $100 piece of software, I wouldn't have even posted my comments.  With
> the dot-com fallout happening, the higher-ups have a tighter grip on the
> purse strings than ever before.  While you may think to yourselves that
> I should probably just jump ship on these people if they aren't willing
> to put forth the needed cash, I prefer to pick up the gauntlet and take
> their challenge.  It will be interesting to see how much I can do with
> what little I'm given to do it with.
> I, for one, am very proud to be a member of the gift economy.  I pray I
> can contribute as much to it as I am in need of using now.
> 
> plug@arcticmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > Sigh.
> > 
> > What does one thing have to do with the other?
> > 
> > In the "big picture" for a given project, the
> > cost of the software slice of the pie is next
> > to NOTHING.  If you have to pay $4,000 for M$
> > licenses, the other costs associated with that
> > project will FAR exceed $4,000.
> > 
> > The reason that I CHOOSE to implement FreeBSD
> > as a server OS is NOT because it is free (as
> > in free beer), but rather because
> > 
> >      1.  It's Unix.
> >      2.  The applications that I want to
> >          run run on FreeBSD.
> >      3.  I have the source.
> >      4.  It's incredibly stable and reliable.
> > 
> > OK, now that the OS selection is done, the
> > fact that it HAPPENS to be free beer makes
> > it that much better.
> > 
> > Now, apply similar criteria to the applications.
> > The ideal situation is a product that's incredibly
> > stable and reliable, the source code is there
> > for all to see (ideally under a BSD-style license,
> > but GPL would be OK), it provides all of the
> > features and functionality that you require
> > of it, is configured via a virtual reality voice
> > recognition system ("Work perfectly, now and
> > forever."), and is free beer.  Guess what?  You're
> > probably not going to find the ideal.  If you
> > find an outstanding system that meets a lot of
> > the ideal criteria, but just happens to not be
> > free beer, then JUST PAY THE MAN.
> > 
> > If you want an e-mail system that costs nothing,
> > there's only one solution:  Don't have an e-mail
> > system.
> > 
> > D
> > 
> > * On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:59:50PM -0700, Digital Wokan wrote:
> > > Fat load of good Cyrus will do me if I'm trying to pitch using Linux for
> > > our mail server to my boss.  It's only free for personal use.
> > > What's a good GPL (or at least free) POP3 or IMAP server for use in a
> > > corporate environment?
> > >
> > > plug@arcticmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Cyrus.
> > > >
> > > > * On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 05:51:45PM -0700, Jason Brown wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have a recomendation for a imap server.  I would like it as secure as
> > > > > possible, but it will not have a high load on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason Brown
> > >
> > > --
> > > Digital Wokan
> > > Tribal mage of the electronics age
> > > Guerilla Linux Warrior
> > 
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