Using the ports tree the make command will either grab the source and patches via CVS or ftp. I prefer source since it is always more up to date than what I find in the packages heirarchy. ObLinux: Debian is the only distro I know of that comes close to replicating the features of the ports and packages features of the *BSD family. Whats nice is that any *BSD can be installed from a single floppy on a machine with internet access. Debian takes 2 floppies to do the same :( JLF Sends... It seems like on Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 05:05:07PM -0700, Barnett, Blake scribbled: Orig Msg> That's only if you're using the ports... in 2.7 I just use pkg_add -v Orig Msg> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/2.7/packages/i386/pkgname.tgz and away it Orig Msg> goes. Also handy is a little script I wrote to keep track of the mirrors Orig Msg> and auto-retry if pkg_add gives me an error if the site is busy. Orig Msg> Orig Msg> Does using the ports version and doing a make in the directory structure go Orig Msg> grab the package and update it? If so... I'll have to do that with some of Orig Msg> the larger apps I'm using. Orig Msg> Orig Msg> * Blake Orig Msg> Orig Msg>