Hans, I assert that OpenBSD *IS* for the lazy! I understand JLF's "subscribe to bugtraq, subscribe to cracker lists, mirror all cracker websites, actually LOOK at your logs once a year" methodology. For a site with real security needs, this (and more) should be done. For me, I use a minimal OpenBSD setup as my firewall, mainly because I'm too lazy to "do the right thing." The way I figure, OpenBSD hasn't had a remote root crack in the default install in two or three years, so if one ever happens, I suspect that the National Emergency Broadcast System will notify me via TV/radio. :) FreeBSD and OpenBSD both have package managers and a "ports" collection. The "ports" method really kicks ass over anything else I've seen for creating packages from an author's pristine tarball. For package management, however, NOTHING comes close to apt. D * On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 03:50:12PM -0700, der.hans wrote: > Am 19. Jul, 2000 schwäzte Barnett, Blake so: > > > Why not just go with the OS by the creators of these packages and let Redhat > > do as they please... > > > > OpenBSD for me! > > Sounds like something from 1001 Arabian Nights to me ;-). > > Yes, *BSD is quite the option were I ever to get off my lazy butt and play > with it :). > > ciao, > > der.hans > > > PS "apt-get install ssh" is really the way to go, though ;-). > > PPS "apt-get install ssh" still rocks, but some of the *BSDs are supposed > to have similar functionality, which is PDC*. > > * Pretty Damned Cool > > -- > H der.hansOLuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Opnix.com > H Like the maid, I don't do (M$)Windows. - der.hans