I know that there is no free lunch here regardless. Along with my futility in setting up the UPS monitoring... I tried installing openssh-2.2.0 from the tarball from openssh.org - says that I needed openssl-0.9.5a (and of course I was using an older version). I downloaded the 0.9.5a from openssl.org and installed it and still openssl says that it wasn't installed. So then in my desparation to get the UPS system going, I found an rpm for openssh2 on contrib.redhat.com and installed the rpm - still won't work ARGH!!!! I don't mind using tarballs but when one tarball depends on another tarball and the first one doesn't put the files where the second one expects them to be - it's all a bit too painful. I guess I'm just venting because I know I'll get it worked out but it takes too much time...the benefit is, I learn more about each package using tarballs and reading thru the source code but I don't want to be an expert on every tarball that I install. The argument for package management is obvious but all the various distro's put things in different places and for obvious reasons - when it comes to redhat - they can't distribute openssl/openssh and it's a complete pia. I don't mind ./configure but I just wish that ./configure were a bit more intelligent about the various distro's sometimes. Craig ----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----| - Craig White - PO Box 8634 - Scottsdale, Arizona - 85252 - e-mail address ................ - CraigWhite@AzApple.com - world wide web address ........ - http://www.AzApple.com - e-mail my pager address ....... - 6023779752@airtouch.net - cellular phone ................ - (602) 377-9752 - voice/facsimile ............... - (480) 945-8445 ----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----| > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Shawn > T. Rutledge > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 10:24 AM > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Holy War: RE: Package management vs. ./configure > > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 08:43:21AM -0700, Jim wrote: > > As far as ease-of-installation goes, HelixCode wins hands down. > Not only does > > it install all of the selected Gnome packages that you request, > it finds, > > downloads, and installs all the dependent packages. What could > be easier? > > Well I'd be really reluctant to use it on a system that has other kinds > of package management, because it would get it confused wouldn't it? > Maybe on a Slackware system. > > -- > _______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud@bigfoot.com > (_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd@kb7pwd.ampr.org > __) | | \________________________________________________________________ > Get money for spare CPU cycles at http://www.ProcessTree.com/?sponsor=5903 > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss