One of the things that I think about is the shortage of programmers I keep hearing about and some of the proposed solutions such as lower immigration requirements. I do not at this time work for corporate America because I have found most companies want my life and soul if they pay me halfway decent, even if they don't. They expect nights, weekends, and holidays. Several years ago I worked for a large international company for a very short time that had the attitude if you touch it you own it. They made their IS employees take a phone with them on vacation. Yeah I type it right. I made my first vacation however I resigned and did not return upon taking that vacation. One of the things that opened my eyes about that company was when I heard I had replaced an employee that was fired for refusing to work the 4th of July weekend. I find corporate America does not want to invest in its employees. The sign says "No Training Here", "You want a life? - Not Here!", "Pay and benefits - that's for the CEO and his high level buddies". I said all that to say this: If corporate America were to start taking an interest in the youth of this country in high school and college though good scholarships, technology grants, and internships, coupled with a better working environment, benefit package, and work schedule, then maybe there would be more talent coming into high tech jobs and maybe they would not quit after a few years to sell cars to get out of the rat race. I've met a few people who have dropped out because they could make a decent living without all the hassle. I hope corporate America wakes up soon and starts giving back to those who make it all possible. Somebody had to say it, I guess it was me. Keith My suggestion to corporate America is to John Mosier wrote: > > Over the next couple of weeks I will be developing an agreement > that will allow Excelco to establish a few internships. I will also > be seeking the SPONSORSHIP of others in the Linux Community. > > In order to make it work for Excelco, I will need commitments from > those who accept the internships. Here are a few of the stipulations > that I will have. > > 1) Intern would be expected to work specific hours and commit to > a pattern of dependability. For someone who works full time, this > will be work consistently from 8:30 AM to 4:00 PM. This work > schedule is essential for the intern to carry his/her weight as a > team member. Interaction with other team members cannot be > effective if punctuality is not observed. > > 2) Intern would be expected to commit to stay with Excelco for > a specifically agreed-upon period. This will be from 12 months > to 30 months. Our acceptance of the intern to work here is mostly > a drain on other Excelco resources at the beginning. As the intern > becomes proficient, that intern will become valuable to others and > there will be a temptation to leave about the time the intern is a > productive member of the Excelco team. > > 3) Intern would have to have references regarding strength of character. > The ability to research problems independently, try new experiences, > learn new hardware and software technologies, stick to a problem for > days on end, ... all are valuable characteristics. An unquenchable thirst > for knowledge about Open Source tools and Linux issues is a valuable > asset. > > Excelco is willing to provide computers, software, a place to work, > books, evaluation software, peripheral hardware, and other materials > suitable for the learning experience and promotion of the development > of the individuals. I see this environment as a Linux laboratory without > the formal classroom environment that usually happens in a school. > > I posted this into the PLUG list in order to get the feedback from other > PLUG members. > > Please post your suggestions to PLUG. I will gather the responses > and develop my agreement from what I learn and from what Excelco > needs. I am not ready to accept applications at this moment. Let > us develop the agreement, then we will have a more formal way to > process applicants and make our selections. > > John Mosier, Excelco Fax: (602) 992-2026 Voice: (602) 992-8076 > http://www.swinfo.com http://www.excelco.com > 2990 E Northern Ave, Ste A-101, Phoenix, AZ 85028 (800) 553-6911 > > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss