This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BFCB3F.67C11AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" FWIW, if you want a REALLY ugly program, find one written in the original (circa 1963-4) Dartmouth BASIC. YEECCCCHHH!! Nicholas Wirth, the father of structured programming and modern programming languages & concepts, is reputed to have discouraged his students from learning BASIC because it "rotted the mind." Of course, that was also the era when the debate on whether the future of computing lay with analog or digital computers was not yet completely over and the question of assembler vs. high level languages was the subject of loud and acrimonious debates. -mj- -----Original Message----- From: Trent Shipley [mailto:tshipley@symbio-tech.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:29 AM To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Subject: RE: Linux Programmer I think one element that got lost in all this is that BASIC was originally designed as an entry level teaching tool with a secondary goal of being an easy-to-use programming language for the "masses." VB is oriented toward quick-and-dirty programming for business. It is supposed to be a low skill, super-rapid development environment for modest projects and production of GUI interfaces. For these applications C++ and C are way too expensive media for development. ---------------- GNU-Linux-BSD all lack the high (COBOL) and low (VB-esque) development environments suitable for cost-conscious business-oriented development projects. > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Mark > Peoples > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 3:27 PM > To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' > Subject: RE: Linux Programmer > > > =) > > -----Original Message----- > From: sinck@corp.quepasa.com [mailto:sinck@corp.quepasa.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 3:26 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: RE: Linux Programmer > > > > > \_ Yes, but, although you think it is bad, you learned it, right? > You didn't > \_ say, "I'm not learning VB because MS designed a crappy language." ? > > Yeah, I did. I've got scars from learning it, though. > > David > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > _______________________________________________ Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss ------_=_NextPart_000_01BFCB3F.67C11AF0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Jarvis, Mark.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Jarvis, Mark.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Jarvis;Mark FN:Jarvis, Mark ORG:Motorola Computer Group;Information Technologies TITLE:UNIX Systems Administrator NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Pager email: 1267987@skytel.com=0D=0A (500 char.max) TEL;WORK;VOICE:(602)437-6370 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:1-800-759-8352; pin: 1267987 TEL;PREF:(602)437-6229 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;2900 South Diablo Way=0D=0A M/S DW117=0D=0A;Tempe;AZ;85282;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:2900 South Diablo Way=0D=0A M/S DW117=0D=0A=0D=0ATempe, AZ 85282=0D=0AUSA EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:Mark.Jarvis@motorola.com REV:20000228T182621Z END:VCARD ------_=_NextPart_000_01BFCB3F.67C11AF0--