the exe comes out 299720 bytes.
with gcc from cygnus.
Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Lucas
> Vogel
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:48 AM
> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
> 
> 
> don't you need the standard library? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Furmanek, Greg [mailto:Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:48 AM
> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
> 
> 
> I do not need dependencies for compiled:
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> 
> int
> main (void) {
> 	printf ("%s", "Visual basic is bloated");
> 	return(0);
> }
> 
> however if I wanted to do the same thing in VB I
> need 2MB worth of files to install!!!
> 
> The Wolf
> 
> -> -----Original Message-----
> -> From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com]
> -> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:51 AM
> -> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> -> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
> -> 
> -> 
> -> Tell me what happens when I install an rpm(program A) for linux. What
> -> happens if program A has missing dependencies? Then I have 
> -> to find and
> -> download the library(library A) so that program A can work. 
> -> I also have to
> -> ensure that library A has its dependencies satisfied, or I'll also be
> -> installing library B and/or C. It can get pretty recursive, 
> -> and also doesn't
> -> take into account the different versions that different 
> -> executables rely on.
> -> 
> -> You must not have read the part concerning the tarball when 
> -> I mentioned the
> -> ./configure script, and how it CHECKS FOR DEPENDENCIES. If 
> -> the script fails
> -> because of missing dependencies, you have to do the same 
> -> thing all over
> -> again. 
> -> 
> -> When you compile a VB app, it does have dependencies. It 
> -> requires a minimum
> -> number of DLL's for it to work. Big deal. Once the dll's are 
> -> installed you
> -> can write as many apps as you want without having to send 
> -> the same dll's
> -> over and over again. If you include some new ones, include 
> -> some new ones. 
> -> 
> -> And it's the same thing for Linux, only different. Linux 
> -> puts an entry into
> -> the rpm db, MS into the Registry. But as far as 
> -> applications, dependencies
> -> and distribution, it's still roughly the same thing. One 
> -> notable exception,
> -> however, is that people on this list keep throwing FUD into 
> -> VB because VB is
> -> Microsoft, and MS sucks on this list. That may be a 
> -> compelling argument for
> -> their business practices, but it doesn't make any sense for 
> -> this argument.
> -> 
> -> 
> -> -----Original Message-----
> -> From: Furmanek, Greg [mailto:Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com]
> -> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 10:25 AM
> -> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> -> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
> -> 
> -> 
> -> I do not understand why you comparing way of distributing
> -> programs to the coding/programming discussion.
> -> 
> -> RPM uses database to keep track of the files you installed.
> -> Tarball is the *source* of a program you are going to 
> -> compile. 
> -> After you install you are going to end up with the same result
> -> with the exception of the entry in the RPM database.
> -> 
> -> On the other hand if you write VB 2-liner and you want to 
> -> distribute that you have to have 2/3 floppies just to fit
> -> the supporitng libraries on it.
> -> 
> -> The Wolf
> -> 
> -> 
> -> -> -----Original Message-----
> -> -> From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com]
> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 9:31 AM
> -> -> To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> -> -> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
> -> -> 
> -> -> 
> -> -> Give ME a break. You get the same issues w/RPM's and 
> -> -> tarballs. The tarballs
> -> -> have far more damaging potential, though, when you're running the
> -> -> ./configure script and it dies because of something you 
> -> may not know
> -> -> anything about how to fix, something that happened 
> -> -> frequently when I was
> -> -> running COL 2.2. Don't make this a Windows-only (or VB, for 
> -> -> that matter)
> -> -> because it isn't.
> -> -> 
> -> -> -----Original Message-----
> -> -> From: The Wolf [mailto:codewolf@earthlink.net]
> -> -> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:19 PM
> -> -> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> -> -> Subject: Re: Linux Programmer
> -> -> 
> -> -> 
> -> -> William Lindley wrote:
> -> -> > 
> -> -> > "Code bloat" in my mind is when you write a two-line VB 
> -> -> program and wind
> -> -> > up with three megabytes of stuff that has to be installed. 
> -> ->  Gimme a break.
> -> -> > 
> -> -> > \\/
> -> -> > 
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> -> -> AMEN to this one!!!!
> -> -> 
> -> -> -- 
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> -> -> the question is if we are paranoid enough."
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