No offence but you sound like perfect VP.

"get it done and do it as cheap as possible."

This is the first mistake of management.
Not enough money spent on good design!!!

It has been proven time and time again:
"_90%_ of cost of software is in the support and 
maintenance!!!"

I think the Idea of unprofitable (useless) exercise 
in engineering does not exist.  The only way to look
at this one is:

"Pay me now or Pay me 1000 times more later."

It is your choice.

The Wolf



-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Trent Shipley [mailto:tshipley@symbio-tech.com]
-> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:27 AM
-> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
-> Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
-> 
-> 
-> 
-> 
-> > -----Original Message-----
-> > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
-> > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of
-> > sinck@corp.quepasa.com
-> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:44 AM
-> > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
-> > Subject: RE: Linux Programmer
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> >
-> > \_
-> > \_ 1) I disagree with you on zero coding thing.
-> > \_ You still code but instead of typing in the
-> > \_ actual code you have to use point and click
-> > \_ interface.  This is all nice and cool as long
-> > \_ as you go back and optimize the generated
-> > \_ code which no one does.  This is the exact way
-> > \_ you end up with bunch of bloatware.
-> > \_
-> > \_
-> > \_ How do you figure?
-> > \_
-> >
-> > Generated code typically is very generalized and so prone 
-> to do lots
-> > of things that it doesn't necessarily need to.
-> >
-> 
-> More important is the question of whether or not the bloat 
-> can be tolerated.
-> If you can live with it, then eliminating the bloat becomes 
-> an unprofitable
-> exercise in engineering.  Often the tradeoff between hardware and
-> development costs favors buying brute-force capability.
-> 
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