-----Original Message----- From: Furmanek, Greg [mailto:Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:10 AM To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' Subject: RE: Linux Programmer 1) I disagree with you on zero coding thing. You still code but instead of typing in the actual code you have to use point and click interface. This is all nice and cool as long as you go back and optimize the generated code which no one does. This is the exact way you end up with bunch of bloatware. How do you figure?