Until recently, I was running enlightenment 0.16 on my RH 6.0 box and was fairly happy with it. There were a few annoying bugs and it seemed kind of slow at times, but it was my hope that these problems would get ironed out in later releases. (And they still may be.) A few weeks ago, I upgraded my RH 6.0 boxes to RH 6.2. After doing this, I noticed that enlightenment had gotten extremely slow, taking on the order of about a second at times to switch viewport areas. Last week, I noticed that Gnome 1.2 was out. I installed the Helix Code release and noticed that it came with a window manager called SawFish. I'd read about the window manager in the past, but never bothered trying it since it was partially implemented in a variant of lisp and I suspected that it would be slow. It's actually quite good. For me, it's faster than enlightenment, and is lacking some of enlightenment's bugs that were fairly annoying to me. (When moving a window between viewports, enlightenment would get confused about where the window actually was and your cursor would either lead or trail the location of the actual window.) I've only noticed one bug in SawFish so far and that I worked around by disabling the animation mode feature. (If you want to see the bug, make the default window animation mode "solid" and then iconify a window.) One of the things that I really, really liked about enlightenment was its pager. I was able to use the pager to move windows around by dragging the small representations of my application's windows from one viewport to another. (BTW, this is something that fvwm, olvm, and other window managers were able to do over ten years ago.) But, this is something that the Gnome pager was unable to do... until now that is. Gnome 1.2 has a better pager whereby you can use the middle mouse button to move windows around. It still lacks some of the features of the enlightenment pager, but I suspect that some of those extra features in the enlightenment pager were making the whole thing slow. Anyway, I recommend SawFish for those of you who like enlightenment, but are fed up with some of its bugs and/or slowness. (Upgrading to Gnome 1.2 is also recommended.) Kevin