\_ The problem started whenI think I put port 1109 \_ into my ipchains rules as a port that would not \_ be allowed. I checked /etc/services and it reports \_ that port is for kpop. I know nothing about kpop Kerberos'd pop? Web search for kpop or invoke the kiboizer on the list, he'll know. \_ (maybe something to do with encrypted pop?), but \_ I did some poking around, and after watching some \_ stats go by, I noticed Outlook using it. \_ \_ Short of the obvious (what do you expect from m$), why \_ would Outlook do this? I thought ports 110 and 25 \_ were sufficient for mail to function. AFAIK, that's all you need, unless'n you're using IMAP/LDAP. \_ Did I miss something? If it's not working now after adding 1109 when you thought it was safe, then I think I have a three character response for you. :-) David ps: these teensy speakers on my workstation at work actually seem to have reasonable bass...if you turn them up loud enough.