All of what you said makes a lot of sense. However I'm just trying to keep as many things as possible exactly the way they are (resistance to change here). Once the developpment has migrated to a better platform than the one we're using, it'll be easier to recommend better revision control practices. Until then... BTW, I didn't figure out how to properly use the -c tag on rcs with cvs, but I figured out how to make cvs update give me what I wanted: add a * before the $Log entry, and it'll work like a charm :) Thanks for your help! Emmanuel --- Kevin Buettner wrote: > On May 15, 11:06am, Emmanuel Gravel wrote: > > > I'm testing cross-compatibility between two > versions > > of CVS (1.10 on Linux and 1.3 on a very old > system, > > can't update it so we're stuck). The question I > have > > is with regards to the newer version though. > > > > On the 1.3, a cvs update would yield ' * ' > prepending > > $Log entries (space, *, space). In the newer > version > > there is nothing. I was told it may be some RCS > config > > to be modified but I haven't been able to find > > anything > > about this in the docs, and haven't found anything > in > > the config of 1.3 (no .cvsrc or other local config > > files) or env on that system that would indicate > any > > parameters modified for this behaviour. I'm trying > to > > emulate it under Linux with 1.10. Anyone know what > I > > should be looking for? > > It looks to me like David has answered your question > so I have nothing > to add with regard to the specifics of your > question. > > But I do have a remark to make about the use of $Log > in general. > Simply put, I think the use of $Log is a very bad > idea. Here > are my reasons: > > 1) It clutters up your source files. If you > don't prune your > log messages occassionally, you'll end up > with more lines > of log messages than lines of source code. > > 2) It makes merging of branches much more > difficult since your > log entries will result in conflicts. (Even > $Header causes > conflicts. I don't like $Header either, but > I find $Header > marginally easier to justify than $Log.) > > 3) It makes it harder to generate useful diffs. > (Whoever gets > the diffs will likely have to remove the $Log > portions first. > And this can be hard if the $Log hunk > overlaps some real changes.) > > 4) If you commit a bunch of files at once, you > get the same > log entry put in each file. If you do a > decent job of > describing exactly what's been changed, this > results > in a lot of replicated text in each file. > > 5) The log information is available separately > via "cvs log". > IMO, this is much more useful than storing > the log information > in the file. > > I much prefer GNU-style ChangeLog files for > recording the changes > which were made to a project. They have the > advantage of being a > separate file that is checked into and maintained > apart from your > source control database. This means that your > change information is > available if you do a "cvs export" or if you decide > to use different > source code control software. Also, and more > importantly, the > change information for related files is grouped > together in one place > so that if a change to foo.c is made, you can see > the reason for it > by examining the surrounding ChangeLog entries. > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - > Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/