you may be interested about the published docs: http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,14996,00.html The Wolf -----Original Message----- From: Mike Sheldon [mailto:msheldon@desertraven.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 5:48 PM To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Subject: RE: Kerberos - Enough Already OK, maybe FUD is a bit strong. However, I see a definite trend where anything negative said about M$ is taken as absolute gospel, without checking the validity of the statement. This is very much the same accusations that the community makes of M$ themselves. If someone was to go into that presentation spouting off about how M$'s Kerberos implementation was breaking standards, they'd likely have been severely embarrased, and would definitely have IMPROVED M$'s standing. Slashdot is entertaining as all get-out. But it's not journalism, and should not be used as factual for anything other than community opinion. Facts on Slashdot are few and far between. The ONLY thing that Clifford Neuman criticised about M$'s implemetation of Kerberos was their lack of public documentation, which M$ has recently addressed. The conditions under which they have released it are really the only thing left to bitch about. As in programming, facts are either true or false, and all facts are false until PROVEN true. When I write consumer apps, I assume their input is complete crap until I have proven otherwise. Only once the input has been proven true will I place it into the database. The same holds true when I'm not programming. When someone tells me something is a fact, and I plan on using that information, I research it until I prove it true. If I cannot prove it true, it is at best only an opinion. Sigh... I hate being in the position of defending M$. Michael J. Sheldon Internet Applications Developer Phone: 480.699.1084 http://www.desertraven.com/ PGP Key Available on Request -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Lucas Vogel Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 16:26 To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' Subject: RE: Kerberos - Enough Already But how can it be called FUD when this is the first time any of us have heard anything to the contrary? _______________________________________________ Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss