\_ I posted yesterday about the respawning issue, and today I gave Jean \_ Francois access to my machine, and he found the problem in about 2 \_ minutes... it seems somehow the tty terminals, had been changed into \_ something other then a device. So Francois just set them back to devices, \_ and viola! Anyway, thanks to everyone who might have posted on the matter. \_ By the way, does anyone know what might cause these to no longer be \_ classified as devices? To quote from before \_ I gave Jean Francois access to my machine Mebbe he had it already. :-) j/k. David I'm not paranoid, I'm definitely missing my second noid. (Anyone else remember the dominos(?) guy?)