Not quite, Carl. The judge has decreed that M$ is a monopoly. The decision about whether they violated any law is still pending. I agree that the judge's decree seems to indicate that he believes that there were laws broken, but until he states that in public, under the U.S. constitution, M$ is still innocent. Jim the future is now -----Original Message----- From: Carl Parrish To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:13 PM Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... > >The courts seems to disagree with you. They've already judged that M$ did >infact break the law. > >Carl Parrish >Webmaster >ComputerPREP.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Joseph >T. Tannenbaum >Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 12:48 PM >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... > > >They didn't "break the law", they just were not nice. > >Joe > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Kevin >> O'Connor >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:21 PM >> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >> Subject: Re: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... >> >> >> The buying public doesn't 'decide' ... They follow like lemmings. >> >> Microsoft has broken the law. There are penalties for that. >> >> Kevin O >> >> "Mark R. Myers" wrote: >> > >> > My vote is to do nothing and leave Microsoft alone. >> > No one put a gun to anyone's head and said that they had to purchase a >> > Microsoft product. >> > No tobacco company got someone addicted to nicotine against their will. >> > With the AOL/Time Warner merger, it will make them a much larger company >> > than Microsoft and should provide some formidable competition. >> > I like free software, but more importantly, I love free enterprise. >> > I say, let the buying public decide, not a judge. >> > There were no lawsuits by Sony when the VHS format (invented by >> JVC) beat >> > out Betamax, even though Betamax was a better product. >> > I say, let the market decide. Let the people decide. >> > There are some Microsoft products that I do like. >> > Microsoft gave me a free copy of Windows2000 Professional (see, they are >> > getting into free software! :-) ) >> > IMHO, it is the best OS that they have put out yet. >> > But again, let the people decide. >> > I DO NOT like Microsoft's businesses practices. I think Bill >> Gates' parents >> > never taught him how to "play nice." >> > But there are other companies that I don't like their business practices >> > too. >> > I purchased SuSE 6.3 (I will give all of the disks away free to >> anyone who >> > wants them). >> > For some reason, I could not get it to print. >> > I never had that problem with any other brand of Linux. >> > When I contacted customer service via e-mail concerning the issue, as a >> > registered SuSE users, I was informed that basic customer >> service did not >> > include the ability to make your computer able to print. >> > I am sorry, but I think that printing is one of the main >> reasons PCs took >> > off in the first place. I consider printing to be a "basic need" of an >> > operating system. >> > So I disagree. I think Microsoft should be scolded for >> predatory business >> > practices, and that is that. Let the buyers decided. >> > I guess I'm just too much a disciple of Milton Freedman economics. >> > Mark >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Furmanek, Greg" >> > To: >> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:01 PM >> > Subject: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... >> > >> > > I have great suggestion how to equalize the market MS >> > > is monopolizing!!! >> > > >> > > Fine MS $15,000,000,000.00 and donate the money to >> > > Free Software Foundation!!!! >> > > >> > > The Wolf >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> -- >> Kevin O'Connor >> >> "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, >> white >> light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. >> In >> a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX >> SYSTEM >> FOR THE 386." >> (Matt Welsh) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > >_______________________________________________ >Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss