True, very true. I vote to keep these coming, though. I don't know what others feel about this(besides D. Taylor, of course:) but doing contract work helped me get started, and I'd do contract work again if I didn't love the job I have now so much. I'm not an advocate of recruiting companies; most of them are pimps, no doubt, but when you need work and/or experience bad enough, it doesn't matter what they're like. All that matters is getting a job. "D. Taylor" wrote: > > I do look around. Every other billboard seems to be > for an IT pimp these days. I wonder why that is. :) > > Nuthin' wrong with profitability in the extreme, I reckon! > > > > The way I see it, the difference is that if, say, H.A.L. > hires a mainframe service tech for a 50k salary, sends > him on-site, and bills a customer for, say, 150 an hour, > I can understand it because H.A.L. provides a LOT of value > in terms of infrastructure (documentation, warehouses around > the country full of parts waiting to be overnighted, communications, > ancillary personnel, yada yada yada) to the process--infrastructure > without which the service tech could not function. > > Compare this to the infrastructure of a pimp: two fax machines. > > > > D > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Lucas Vogel wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:58:27 -0800 > > From: Lucas Vogel > > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'" > > > Subject: RE: [azipa] We need Help! (fwd) > > > > I used to share your sentiments; that is, until I worked as a permanent > > employee for some of the different companies in the valley(to include a > > company that presents itself on this mailing list). The practice of billing > > a significant amount while paying the person doing the work a much smaller > > sum is a very common business practice. Look around at most, if not all > > companies doing business today. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: D. Taylor [mailto:dtaylor@www.dssolutions.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 6:48 PM > > To: quatsch > > Subject: Re: [azipa] We need Help! (fwd) > > > > > > > > > Because we might have some people on the list who don't mind being whored > > > out :). > > > > Yeah, it always starts out that way. Then after awhile the ho > > discovers that she's being billed out by the two fax machine > > (connected back-to-back; one receives the timesheet, the other > > transmits the invoice) pimp at 150 an hour to cover her 50k > > salary and fax expenses. > > > > > > D > > > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, der.hans wrote: > > > > > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:28:02 -0700 (MST) > > > From: "der.hans" > > > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > To: quatsch > > > Subject: Re: [azipa] We need Help! (fwd) > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, D. Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...(no agencies or recruiters, please)... > > > > > > > > Like, duh. > > > > > > > > Out of curiousity, how is this posting (a pimp > > > > seeking ho's) not spam? > > > > > > Because we might have some people on the list who don't mind being whored > > > out :). > > > > > > If the consensus agrees with you I will try to be a bit more > > > discriminating in the postings I forward over to PLUG. To be honest, AZIPA > > > is not a tech list (at least not the way most of us view tech :), so keep > > > that in mind when viewing posts from that list. That's part of the reason > > > I don't clean up the subject or headers. > > > > > > > The job postings for companies looking to hire > > > > someone with *nix experience to work DIRECTLY > > > > for said company I can appreciate. But pimps > > > > casting nets for ho's? > > > > > > At least they're advertising for Linux. Sucks to be in the kink no one > > > wants ;-). > > > > > > ciao, > > > > > > der.hans > > > -- > > > # +++++++++++=================================+++++++++++ # > > > # der.hans@LuftHans.com www.excelco.com # > > > # http://home.pages.de/~lufthans/ # > > > # I'm not anti-social, I'm pro-individual. - der.hans # > > > # ===========+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=========== # > > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi! I'm a signature virus. Copy me into your .sig to join the fun! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~