It seems like on Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:30:20AM -0700, Sean Roe scribbled: Orig Msg> I believe you are mistaken here. Dsl and POTS (Plain old telephone service) use the same copper. they are ridding in different Orig Msg> frequencies (?sp). That is why there is a limitation on distance. RaDSL (Us Worst) is limited to 18000 feet from the CO where as Orig Msg> other xDSL technoligies (SDSL- Rythems) can go upto 26000 feet depending on a bunch of factors. I am currently switching from Orig Msg> RaDSL to SDSL (and getting a second phone line in the process) in the hopes of getting better sustainable transfer rates. Orig Msg> Hold on while I run outside... I have 1 copper pair assigned to DSL and 1 copper pair assigned to POTS. My FlowPoint 2200 Router says I have SDSL. http://www.adsl.com/general_tutorial.html http://www.3com.com/technology/tech_net/white_papers/500624.htm The Telecommunications Handbook, Volume 3 verifies that this uses one copper pair. For POTS wiring see: http://www.hometech.com/learn/telwire.html The Telecommunications Handbook, Volume 3 The main reason most people have to get a new phone line is that USWest[spit] runs most residential phone lines thru a SLC-96 multiplexer at the subdivision. That unit is *not* compatible with any DSL and the second phone line is ususally installed to bypass the SLC-96 unit. Jean Francois Sends... President & CEO MagusNet, Inc. MagusNet.com, MagusNet.Gilbert.AZ.US CTO EBIZ Enterprises, Inc. TheLinuxStore.com, TheLinuxLab.com, LinuxWired.net 480-778-1120 - Office 602-770-JLF1 - Cellular