I am doing DSL so let me take a stab at this. Since this was posted as one single line I will have to break this up. It seems like on Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 07:48:19PM -0700, Lucas Vogel scribbled: Orig Msg> While we're on the topic of modems & such I'd like to ask a question. I've been an avid cox@home user for the last year or so now, but am now moving out of my apt. and while I'm almost certain I'll be able to retain my account when I move, I was wondering what the associated costs, benefits/downsides, and other such information people have on using the DSL services available in the area. Costs: Not much difference ( see below ). Benefits: Not on a shared network segment prone to sniffing. Dedicated bandwidth. Disadvantages: Relative speeds ususally cost more on DSL vs. Cable for businesses. Not sure about residential but it should be competitive. What kind of hardware do I have to purchase? Do I have to have a second phone line? who are some of the better ISPs who offer DSL services, and what are the going monthly rates? You need a DSL router which would replace the Cable Modem. You don't need a second phone line. The DSL circuit uses one pair and your phone uses the other pair in a standard phone line installation. See WiredGlobal ( Hi Jay! ) for service. I am a happy business customer. No, he doesn't pay me for recommendations. http://www.wiredglobal.net/ Orig Msg> Thanks guys Orig Msg> Orig Msg> Lucas Vogel You are welcome. Jean Francois Sends... President & CEO MagusNet, Inc. MagusNet.com, MagusNet.Gilbert.AZ.US CTO EBIZ Enterprises, Inc. TheLinuxStore.com, TheLinuxLab.com, LinuxWired.net 480-778-1120 - Office 602-770-JLF1 - Cellular