ouch. "Furmanek, Greg" wrote: > > "Perhaps even more threatening is UCITA's role in establishing a liability > baseline for software publishers. Consumer advocates note with dismay that > the act's provisions free software publishers from any conceivable liability > from defects in their code; however, you must use UCITA's provisions as a > baseline in order to get this protection. Free software licenses such as the > GPL may become meaningless after UCITA, exposing program authors to > litigation. Since free software authors generally aren't wealthy, they will > withdraw their products rather than face protracted litigation. UCITA may > well have been designed from the get-go to eliminate the competitive threat > from free software--a necessary step, since free software is winning in the > marketplace." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 11:27 AM > To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' > Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia > > Considering the swarm of new public companies that stake their livelihood on > open-source software, do you really think that they'd make rules against it? > I don't think that's what this new bill is, otherwise there'd be a lot more > people than Ralph Nader(God bless that man!) protesting its inception into > law. > What I think the law IS saying is that companies like M$ will have a > tighter grip over people that buy their products, and what they do with > them. That's why it's referred to as a 'shrink-wrap' law. > > Lucas Vogel > > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of D. > Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 12:16 PM > To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' > Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia > > End result: All Free, GPL, Artistic and BSD-licensed code will > suddenly become developed by "Anonymous." Go sue the Internet. > > So sad. > > D > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Furmanek, Greg wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:32:35 -0500 > > From: "Furmanek, Greg" > > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'" > > > Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia > > > > It makes developers liable for any code posted. > > So if someone uses software developed by you > > and looses money you are liable! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lucas7@home.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:20 PM > > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Subject: Re: UCITA passed in virginia > > > > > > Doesn't this law only apply to licensed software? If so, what do GPL > > users have to fear about? Or am I not getting it? > > > > David Demland wrote: > > > > > > I understand the feeling each of us may have. But do commits like this > > help > > > the cause? It would be better if we spent our time understand the bill > as > > it > > > was submitted to our House of Rep. and what we can do to inform our > > > political leaders about the impact of the bill. Two questions to > remember > > > about this 1 - What is the major goal and 2 - How do we achieve that > goal? > > > > > > By the way does anyone have a copy of the bill or where I can get a copy > > of > > > the bill? > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > > > David Demland > > > Qa / Testing Manager > > > CADTEL Systems, Inc. > > > 11201 N. Tatum Ste. 200 > > > Phoenix, AZ 85028 > > > (602) 953-4888 > > > FAX: (602) 953-4833 > > > ddemland@cadtel.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Furmanek, Greg > > > To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us' > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:50 AM > > > Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia > > > > > > >You also have to ask yourself: > > > >How much politicians know about computers?? > > > >How much they got paid by M$?? > > > >How many more states are going to support it?? > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Rooster [mailto:dwbarker99@earthlink.net] > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:40 AM > > > >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >Subject: Re: UCITA passed in virginia > > > > > > > > > > > >well you've got to ask your self 2 things. 1. what does virginia know > > about > > > >computers? (everyone there i've dealt with needed major training, and > 2. > > > how > > > >much were these people paid off for by m$? > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Robert Leonard" > > > >To: > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 12:15 AM > > > >Subject: UCITA passed in virginia > > > > > > > > > > > >> Looks like the ball is rolling, virginia passed UCITA unanimously. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> http://www.infoworld.com/articles/ec/xml/00/02/14/000214ecucita.xml > > > >> ______________________________________________________ > > > >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > > Lucas Vogel > > lucas7@home.com > > ICQ: 44697169 > >