\_ > \_ > Hmm; is the drive still mounted ro when you try this? \_ > \_ \_ > \_ Shouldn't matter should it? \_ > \_ > It is if your of paramater for dd is pointing to it. :-) \_ \_ africola:/# mount \_ /dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro) Notice the leading part where it says (rw,...)? Get that to say ro, and get the command to run, and then I'll believe it's time to bake that crow. :-) \_ proc on /proc type proc (rw) \_ /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) \_ africola:/# dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/tmp/ddout bs=512 count=2 \_ 2+0 records in \_ 2+0 records out \_ africola:/# ls -l /tmp/ddout \_ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1024 Feb 2 11:04 /tmp/ddout \_ africola:/# If I had a spare partition and wasn't distracted by Work(TM) I'd give that a try rather than be lame and say "you do it". Or I could mount a loopback mount, but, I'm voting to be lame. David