<div dir="ltr"><span style="white-space-collapse: preserve;">if you got time and you want to hear about it from a cardiologist check out </span><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=fasting+for+survival&oq=fasting+for+surviva&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABjvBTIKCAcQABiiBBiJBTIKCAgQABiABBiiBDIKCAkQABiABBiiBNIBCjExMTExMGoxajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank"><span style="white-space-collapse: preserve;">https://www.google.com/search?q=fasting+for+survival&oq=fasting+for+surviva&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABjvBTIKCAcQABiiBBiJBTIKCAgQABiABBiiBDIKCAkQABiABBiiBNIBCjExMTExMGoxajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8</span></a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 7:38 PM Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">'I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><br><br>I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic,<br></span>and suffer from chronic fatigue.'<br><div><br></div><div>Fasting has been known to cure all of those. For anecdotal evidence visit: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/</a> and ask there.</div><div><br></div>As for guidance my wife suggested it to lose weight and many other benefits happened as well.<div>as far as the weight loss goes, you will lose 2-3 pounds a week if you do 32 hour fasting twice a week combined with a protocol of fasting 17 hours a day the other days of the week. if you fast for 90 hours you will lose about 5 pounds on non-water weight.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 7:24 PM Michael <<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">'I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.<br><br>I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic,<br>and suffer from chronic fatigue.'<br><div><br></div><div>Fasting has been known to cure all of those. For anecdotal evidence visit: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/</a> and ask there.</div><div><br></div><div>As for guidance my wife suggested it to lose weight and many other benefits happened as well.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 1:58 PM <<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">First thank those in charge for allowing this off topic exchange.<br>
<br>
Thank you Mike for sharing.<br>
<br>
Mike, what is your goal for posting this documentation?<br>
<br>
Mike where did you get your fasting guidance?<br>
<br>
For me this might be a timely response to my medical needs.<br>
<br>
I am a Christian and ask God for wisdom maybe 5 days out of the week. I <br>
think Mike's post might be an answer to my prayers.<br>
<br>
I am 68 years old and I have a ton of health issues.<br>
<br>
I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.<br>
<br>
I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic, <br>
and suffer from chronic fatigue.<br>
<br>
I am treated by the VA, which means they follow the Pharmaceutical <br>
companies teachings and approach to decease.<br>
<br>
I am not against the Pharmaceutical companies. I think they have their <br>
place.<br>
<br>
I was on Ozempic and stopped taking it because of it's side effects.<br>
<br>
I was on statins for my high collateral. According to Barbara O'neal <br>
statins can cause brain fog. I can attest to that.<br>
<br>
Interestingly Mike shared that he is able to impact his situation <br>
without a Pharmaceutical solution.<br>
<br>
I have this notion that if I lose 50lbs or more and eat better, I might <br>
be able to get off all these Pharmaceuticals they are giving me. I <br>
currently take 10 different Pharmaceuticals for all that ails me.<br>
<br>
My Pharmaceuticals are mailed to me and come with a print out that says <br>
my doctor has determined the benefits of taking this drug out weigh it's <br>
side effects. I'm not sure. Getting rid of the statins has made my <br>
life better. The brain fog was impacting me in the extreme.<br>
<br>
I am embracing the alternate health system.<br>
<br>
Now I am wondering if fasting can benefit me.<br>
<br>
We are moving into a new era. I wonder what impact Robert Francis <br>
Kennedy Jr might have on the Food and Drug Administration.<br>
<br>
Thanks you for allowing this off topic post.<br>
<br>
Keith<br>
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On 2025-02-15 11:57, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
> As you all know I had a TBI and I discovered something and was hoping<br>
> someone could pass it on so we could get some hard data and studies<br>
> done on this:<br>
> <br>
> Case Study: The Role of Fasting and Autophagy in Post-Traumatic Brain<br>
> Injury (TBI) Recovery<br>
> <br>
> Patient: Michael Havens<br>
> Age: 53<br>
> Location: Ocala, Florida<br>
> Date of Injury: 1985 (vehicle accident resulting in TBI)<br>
> Diagnosis: Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), 6-week coma<br>
> <br>
> Abstract:<br>
> This case study explores the potential benefits of extended fasting in<br>
> a patient recovering from a traumatic brain injury (TBI). The patient,<br>
> Michael Havens, sustained a significant brain injury in 1985 after<br>
> being hit by a vehicle, resulting in a 6-week coma. After beginning a<br>
> fasting regimen in 2023, which included a series of 32-hour fasts and<br>
> a 90-hour fast, the patient reports notable improvements in speech,<br>
> memory, physical speed, and cognitive function, suggesting that<br>
> autophagy and fasting may offer neuroprotective effects and promote<br>
> recovery. The patient also theorizes that fasting may be an<br>
> evolutionary mechanism designed for healing in times of food scarcity,<br>
> particularly following injuries like those sustained in pre-modern<br>
> times.<br>
> <br>
> Introduction:<br>
> Traumatic brain injury (TBI) can result in long-term cognitive and<br>
> physical impairments. Traditional treatments focus on immediate<br>
> rehabilitation, but recent research has begun to explore the potential<br>
> benefits of fasting and other dietary interventions in enhancing<br>
> recovery. Autophagy, a process triggered by fasting, may help clear<br>
> damaged cells and encourage regeneration.<br>
> <br>
> This case study evaluates the effects of fasting on post-TBI recovery,<br>
> particularly focusing on cognitive function, speech, and motor<br>
> abilities, based on the personal experience of Michael Havens, who<br>
> began fasting in 2023 to support recovery from his TBI.<br>
> <br>
> Methods:<br>
> <br>
> Initial Condition:<br>
> <br>
> The patient sustained a TBI in 1985 after being struck by a vehicle.<br>
> The injury resulted in a 6-week coma, and upon awakening, the patient<br>
> experienced cognitive and physical impairments, including memory loss,<br>
> slow speech, and physical slowness.<br>
> These impairments persisted for several years following the injury.<br>
> Fasting Protocol (2023):<br>
> The patient began a fasting regimen in 2023, incorporating a<br>
> combination of:<br>
> <br>
> 32-hour fasts once a week (separated by a month or two from the<br>
> 90-hour fast)<br>
> 90-hour fast (done once in 2023)<br>
> A daily 17:7 intermittent fasting schedule, where the patient eats<br>
> within a 7-hour window each day and fasts for the remaining 17 hours.<br>
> Observations:<br>
> After completing the 90-hour fast, the patient noticed several<br>
> improvements, including:<br>
> <br>
> Speech: Increased clarity and fluency in verbal communication.<br>
> Memory: Enhanced recall and sharper focus, although the improvements<br>
> in memory were not fully permanent.<br>
> Cognitive Speed: Faster processing and quicker mental responses.<br>
> Physical Speed: Improved physical agility and increased mobility.<br>
> Additionally, the patient experienced relief from carpal tunnel<br>
> syndrome, a condition that had been a source of chronic discomfort.<br>
> The patient began fasting in 2023 solely for weight loss, with no<br>
> expectation of affecting TBI recovery. The TBI-related impairments<br>
> persisted but were somewhat alleviated by the continuous process of<br>
> autophagy, which had a beneficial effect on the aforementioned<br>
> cognitive and physical ailments. The 32-hour fasts were performed once<br>
> a week and separated by a month or two from the 90-hour fast, with the<br>
> latter having a more noticeable impact. The improvements in speech,<br>
> memory, and cognitive function were unexpected outcomes of the fasting<br>
> regimen.<br>
> <br>
> Results:<br>
> The patient’s experience suggests a potential relationship between<br>
> fasting, autophagy, and improved recovery outcomes after TBI. The<br>
> improvements in speech, memory, and motor function could be linked to<br>
> the neuroprotective effects of fasting, where the body promotes cell<br>
> repair and regeneration during periods of food scarcity. The<br>
> hypothesis that fasting might have evolved as an adaptive mechanism<br>
> for healing during times of injury and food deprivation is explored,<br>
> with particular focus on the benefits for individuals recovering from<br>
> severe trauma.<br>
> <br>
> Discussion:<br>
> This case highlights the possible therapeutic effects of fasting and<br>
> autophagy in the recovery from traumatic brain injury. The patient’s<br>
> improvements in speech, cognitive function, and physical speed support<br>
> the notion that fasting could have neuroplastic benefits. The 90-hour<br>
> fast seems to have had a particularly strong effect, although further<br>
> clinical studies are required to validate these results and understand<br>
> the mechanisms behind them.<br>
> <br>
> It is important to note that fasting should be approached cautiously,<br>
> particularly in individuals with significant medical conditions. While<br>
> the patient did not consult with a doctor specifically about fasting,<br>
> medical supervision is recommended for those considering extended<br>
> fasting, especially for those with a history of TBI.<br>
> <br>
> Conclusion:<br>
> This case study suggests that fasting, particularly extended fasting,<br>
> may be a useful intervention in enhancing recovery from traumatic<br>
> brain injury. The patient’s improvements in speech, memory, and<br>
> physical agility provide preliminary evidence that fasting may play a<br>
> role in neuroprotection and healing. Further clinical research into<br>
> autophagy and fasting in TBI patients is needed to explore these<br>
> findings in greater depth.<br>
> <br>
> Contact Information:<br>
> Michael Havens<br>
> 8 Cedar Run Court<br>
> Ocala, Florida 34472<br>
> Email: <a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a><br>
> <br>
> response:<br>
> I see! Congrats on the recovery! If you’re affiliated with a group<br>
> in the science world, direct submissions to journals (as long as you<br>
> have hard data with numbers) could work, but if not that would sadly<br>
> be a flat rejection. Also if it’s accepted you would then be writing<br>
> up the entire study yourself if you’re up for that. Sharing with<br>
> smaller medical groups if you know of any or your doctor(s) and asking<br>
> them could be a great resource since they would know more about<br>
> conferences or talks that present case studies like this and such.<br>
> I love reading this kind of data because I’ve have three concussions<br>
> myself, luckily all mild/moderate, but ending up with post-concussion<br>
> syndrome. I have noticed some improvement with fasting in clarity of<br>
> speech but memory especially and the odd word recall is very “hit<br>
> the wall” sensation. Proprioception is also still trash 😅<br>
> <br>
> response:<br>
> I did exactly that back in 2020. I ceased all sugar consumption and<br>
> began fasting and exercising in a fasted state every day. I lost 70<br>
> pounds. I also began healing brain damage and arrested development.<br>
> <elaborate><br>
> I started no sugar and 18:6 eating schedule and walking 10,000 steps a<br>
> day in March of 2020. By summer, I was up to 24,000 steps a day, 12<br>
> miles. Late summer of 2020 I read a study where rats were put in a<br>
> ketogenic scenario. The rats kept in ketosis had bigger brains then<br>
> the rats fed regularly. I thought if I do that it should help my<br>
> brain, right? So that's what I started doing. It healed my inability<br>
> to feel and express emotions (alexithymia). I was tortured and abused<br>
> severely when I was young. I had CPTSD and arrested development. I was<br>
> a frightened eight year old boy in an adult man's body. I threw myself<br>
> into therapy and on fasting and exercising. I still do it to this very<br>
> day. <I also engaged in> EMDR, CBT, and massage therapy. <I feel I<br>
> began to cure the brain damage> by putting my body in a situation<br>
> where I made keytones and BDNF every day. The brain functions better<br>
> on keytones than it does on glycolosis. BDNF repaired damaged neurons<br>
> and built new neural networks.<br>
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