<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Well. FWIW, I find the 4o model does a worse job at coding than a newbie intern would do. That should appeal to you because you’ll have to put far more effort into reviewing the code than if it were a more experienced coder.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you want to get much better quality work, pay that outrageous fee of $20 /mo (the cost of a large Supreme pizza) and go with o3-mini-High. It’s optimized for coding tasks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It should go without saying that since there’s so much logic embedded in most run-time libs you never get a chance to exercise your chops on any of those functions either. I don’t find anybody complaining about that, they just keep asking for more enhancements.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 12, 2025, at 5:46 PM, Pablo Camacho via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" class="">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I can believe it. I don't like to use ChatGPT because I don't get the satisfaction of learning from going through the trials of researching and validating the information. Plus it is extra work to learn and know enough to validate whether ChatGPT gave the right answer.<br class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 5:27 PM greg zegan via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" class="">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><a href="https://futurism.com/study-ai-critical-thinking" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">Study Finds That People Who Entrust Tasks to AI Are Losing Critical Thinking Skills</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div id="m_6226869348906487883ydp6bff5acbenhancr_card_9862536922" style="max-width:400px;font-family:"YahooSans VF",YahooSans,"OpenSans VF",OpenSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><a href="https://futurism.com/study-ai-critical-thinking" style="text-decoration: none;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class=""><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td width="400" class=""><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);border-radius:2px" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td bgcolor="#000000" valign="top" height="175" style="background-color:rgb(0,0,0);background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:cover;border-radius:2px 2px 0px 0px;min-height:175px" class=""><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td bgcolor="transparent" valign="top" style="background-color:transparent;border-radius:2px 2px 0px 0px;min-height:175px" class=""><table border="0" height="175" style="width:100%;min-height:175px" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td style="text-align:left;padding:15px 0px 0px 15px;vertical-align:top" class=""></td><td style="text-align:right;padding:15px 15px 0px 0px;vertical-align:top" class=""><div class=""></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr class=""><td class=""><table border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:rgb(255,255,255);width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;border-top:1px solid rgb(224,228,233)" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);padding:16px 0px 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px" class=""></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:"YahooSans VF",YahooSans,"OpenSans VF",OpenSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-radius:0px 0px 2px" class=""><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:"YahooSans VF",YahooSans,"OpenSans VF",OpenSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,34,40);max-width:314px" class="">Study Finds That People Who Entrust Tasks to AI Are Losing Critical Thin...</h2><div style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; color: rgb(151, 158, 168);" class="">Trusting AI over the real thing seems, per a new study, to actually be atrophying folks' mental faculties.</div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">??</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div>---------------------------------------------------<br class="">
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