<div dir="auto"><div>You're right, I did calculate that wrong! That was more like 2 megawatts PER MONTH! </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The SRP mobile app shows that from November 2023 until October 2024 I used 58 megawatts.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I attached a screen shot.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I was joking about being "on a list" but we do get fairly constant reminders from SRP about using less power and "going green" so there's that.</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">---<br>Thanks,<br>Alexander<br><br>Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 28, 2024, 06:49 <<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2024-11-27 17:56, Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
> I'm on someone's Excel spreadsheet at SRP, with the sheet called<br>
> "Assholes".<br>
> <br>
<br>
How did you get on that list?<br>
<br>
AND<br>
<br>
How did you discover you were on that list?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> I use, at my last check, like 2 megawatts per year, or something<br>
> obscene like that.<br>
> <br>
> Powering my server stack is a part of that, but it's probably not that<br>
> impactful. The two A/C, pool, pool heater/cool (like a third A/C unit)<br>
> ... And my wife keeps the house around 68F all year ... Soooooo.<br>
<br>
68 is cold!!<br>
<br>
I home office so I have at least one PC on all the time. I have a Win10 <br>
laptop that I use often. SRP tells me I use less electricity than <br>
average. Maybe what makes the difference is I do not have a pool.<br>
<br>
<br>
> <br>
> I really do want solar, but my wife says that project isn't until the<br>
> late 20s, at best, probably early 2030s.<br>
<br>
Who knows maybe the technology might be better then. Then again there <br>
is the opportunity cost of delaying.<br>
<br>
<br>
> <br>
> I really want the redundant A/B power supplies with the red cords and<br>
> black cords.<br>
> <br>
> I'm the king of "Isn't that a bit excessive for a homelab?" ... So I<br>
> think this is right up my alley!<br>
> <br>
> ---<br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Alexander<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, 11:01 Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss<br>
> <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> So solar usually pairs best with some level of power storage. and<br>
>> amazon has some amazing options going right now for far less than<br>
>> what you are getting quoted.<br>
>> <br>
>> Just the fast search comes up with this kit for a ton less than you<br>
>> are getting quoted.<br>
>> Bear in mind you will have to add in the cost of connecting it to<br>
>> your panel, but still an interesting baseline.<br>
>> <br>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 12:41 PM George Toft via PLUG-discuss<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> A friend was looking into solar with a Tesla wall (battery). I<br>
>>> looked at<br>
>>> her APS bill - it was $120/month. They were seriously considering<br>
>>> spending $25K to cut down on the peak demand charge. The most they<br>
>>> would<br>
>>> save was $20/month. That's an ROI that would never be achieved.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I have solar. APS invited me to buy a battery and they would pay<br>
>>> me<br>
>>> $1250 if I let them manage it. The battery was quoted at $15K.<br>
>>> Yeah, no.<br>
>>> So let's say I use the battery to keep my 4pm-7pm APS draw<br>
>>> minimized,<br>
>>> what is my ROI? Looking at my past bills, my peak demand charge<br>
>>> ranges<br>
>>> from $5 to $121 per month. Let's average that out to $65/month. So<br>
>>> $15K<br>
>>> to save $65/month gives me an ROI of 230 months. It will be less<br>
>>> due to<br>
>>> APS price increases, but that's still 15-20 years out, and by then<br>
>>> the<br>
>>> battery would need to be replaced, nullifying any notion of an<br>
>>> ROI.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> George Toft<br>
>>> <br>
>>> On 11/26/2024 3:31 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I have been curious about solar for sometime.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I am looking at my electric bill and I use less than 600k watts<br>
>>> a<br>
>>>> month for 1/2 the year.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> My math does not seem to work out.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> 1) Convert 600000 watts at 120 volts * .1 = 60,000 watts at 12<br>
>>> volts.<br>
>>>> 2) 60,000 watts divided by 30 = 2000 watts at 12 volts per day.<br>
>>>> 3) If I can harvest solar for 4 hours a day that is 2000/4 = 500<br>
>>> watts<br>
>>>> at 12 volts.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> That means I only need 500 watts of solar. This does not take<br>
>>> into<br>
>>>> consideration loss of power in the system.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> If the system losses 30% then I need around 715 watts of solar<br>
>>> panels<br>
>>>> to meet my needs.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I was expecting a lot more.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Any help is much appreciated!!<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Keith<br>
>>>> <br>
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>> <br>
>> --<br>
>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you<br>
>> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze<br>
>> button.<br>
>> <br>
>> Stephen<br>
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