<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>This may sound kind of funny but I remember conversations a long time ago about email hosting and at the time it was actually suggested if you want to keep your data away from the three-letter-agencies, to sign up for and use an account from a Russian email provider.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The rational being while Russia might be spying on you, The three-letter-agencies can't and Russia isn't going to share information with them.<br></div><div><br></div><div>That said I haven't used an anti-virus in years as I haven't used Windows in years, at least on personal machines. Machines I use for work have whatever said company installed on them.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 8:09 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div class="qt-ydp5c166e24yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm quite certain all three letter agencies spy on us at the behest of the DC establishment as they create the laws and Wall Street has their spies as well.<br></div><div dir="ltr">its all about commerce and trade. always has been.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div></div><div id="qt-yahoo_quoted_9639124525" class="qt-yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38, 40, 42);"><div>On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 10:17:52 PM MST, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div id="qt-yiv7650187176"><div><div>Nope!<br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176"><br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176">I saw that situation coming about 10 years ago. Also, wouldn’t trust AVAST or other similar eastern EU products for much the same reason.<br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176"><br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176">-Eric<br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Software Insecurity Dept.<br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176"><div><br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176"><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="qt-yiv7650187176"><div id="qt-yiv7650187176yqtfd88439" class="qt-yiv7650187176yqt2336511218"><div class="qt-yiv7650187176">On Jun 22, 2024, at 8:02 PM, wheelie207 via PLUG-discuss <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" class="qt-yiv7650187176">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176"><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;" class="qt-yiv7650187176">I'm sure most of you have heard about kaspersky now being banned from the U.S. I figured that was going to happen since Russia has control over business in that country and a national security threat to the U.S....<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;" class="qt-yiv7650187176">Is anyone else surprised by this. <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;" class="qt-yiv7650187176"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;" class="qt-yiv7650187176protonmail_signature_block"><div class="qt-yiv7650187176protonmail_signature_block-user"><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;" class="qt-yiv7650187176">Harold Hartley<br></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;" class="qt-yiv7650187176"><br></div><div class="qt-yiv7650187176protonmail_signature_block-proton">Sent with <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://proton.me/" class="qt-yiv7650187176">Proton Mail</a> secure email.<br></div></div><div>---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div>PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" class="qt-yiv7650187176">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" class="qt-yiv7650187176">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div id="qt-yiv7650187176yqtfd61731" class="qt-yiv7650187176yqt2336511218"><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="qt-yqt2336511218" id="qt-yqtfd25470"><div>---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div>PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div></div></div></div></div><div>---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div>PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div><a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>