<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Heh, windows (AKA Win Blows) has always been bloatware without any real dedicated app organization. At least with apple, the bloatware factor as some sense to it (every app contains a copy of it’s own libs and other data files). Windows doesn’t even do this right.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Linux managed to have most of the common libs and other necessary files in some common folders that all apps can look to (and those are the user land apps). Most, if not all of the system level apps usually have libs and other stuff compiled in (makes it a lot easier not having to install dependencies when all you need are the basic system level CLI apps).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Eric</div><div class="">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Coding refinement Dept.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 30, 2024, at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" class="">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Bill retired, </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 1:08 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" class="">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u class=""></u>
<div class=""><p class="">I have Kubuntu 22.04 installed. It takes 33GB for the OS and the
software I installed. Here's what df -h returns <br class="">
/dev/sda1 916G 33G 837G 4% /<br class="">
/dev/sdb1 1.9T 1.5T 277G 85% /home/</p><p class="">I've been referring to windows as Bill's bugware. I guess I
should start calling it Bill's bloatware.<br class="">
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<div class="">On 5/28/24 12:28, Michael via
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<div dir="ltr" class="">as I expected</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 28, 2024 at
2:28 PM rusty via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" class="">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>>
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<div class="">hmm. I thought he was asking about WINDOWs fitting.
But while we're on the topic of Linux fitting, here's my
Linux DF for / and /home:</div>
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<div class="">/dev/sda2 37G 26G 9.6G 73% /</div>
<div class="">/dev/sdb2 1.8T 1.7T 18G 99% /home</div>
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<div class="">So, ignoring home, my laptop Linux Mint fits fine in
30G. And I've got LOTS of 'junk' loaded. At my last job,
I allocated around 30G for the Linux partition, if I
remember right, which was pretty much a default install of
Linux Mint.</div>
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<div class="">That being said, here are some sizes for the virtual
PCs I've created for the class I teach:</div>
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<div class="">Ubuntu2.2: 28.92 GB</div>
<div class="">Ubuntu2.2: 25.85 GB.</div>
<div class="">MicroOS: 34.46GB</div>
<div class="">EdUbuntu: 24.0GB</div>
<div class="">CentOS: 30.15GB</div>
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<div class="">Note that these were 'mostly' 'standard' installs, but
obviously YMMV! (especially since MY mileage varied!)</div>
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<div class="">Now, I also did a Windows install, W11 or W10 I think,
and I don't think I added much to it, and it took 50.0GB</div>
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<div class="">So, for Windows I agree that you're probably out of
luck getting it in to 30GB! ;-)</div>
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