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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">would it be time to unionize or change the way business is done in AZ?</div><div><br></div>
        
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                        On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:50:10 AM MST, trent shipley <trent.shipley@gmail.com> wrote:
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                <div><div id="yiv8628188208"><div><div dir="ltr">No.  As a rule software engineers/programmers/developers/computer scientists all see themselves as professionals who are above unionizing and seldom or never do.  I think we're seeing the effect of Arizona being a provincial, 3rd world location for headquarters and software development options.   <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It's similar to "we make the chips.  We aren't friken good enough to DESIGN the chips.  They do that in NICE places."</div></div><br clear="none"><div id="yiv8628188208yqt64347" class="yiv8628188208yqt9056739934"><div class="yiv8628188208gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv8628188208gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 9:35 AM greg zegan <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gjzegan@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gjzegan@yahoo.com">gjzegan@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv8628188208gmail_quote"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir="ltr">Wow!</div><div dir="ltr">thanks.</div><div dir="ltr">sure look like they are taking advantage of the Right to work state workers.</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
        
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                        On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 09:08:07 AM MST, trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:
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