<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>Given those are so old now, (18.1 pushing 6 years...), you're probably going to spend a lot more time trying to upgrade than if you just backed up your /home directory and reinstalled everything, then restore your /home directory.<br></div><div><br></div><div>IMO LTS distros are meant more for commercial-type applications where you're going to install the operating system once and it's going to last the realistic lifetime of the system, and when you need to upgrade you're going to setup an entirely new system, or for atomic systems like containers where you can have a stable base and only have to update it once every few years. Given the infrequency of Debian releases you could say that it also falls into the same category, but I've found Debian Testing and Sid to be fine in the past.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, at 10:20 PM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div class="qt-ydp9ba6277yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hello,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> Get online with Mr. Ubuntu at the next PLUG meeting.<br></div><div dir="ltr">He did great things for me on my two Debian systems that got messed up.<br></div><div dir="ltr">thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Greg<br></div><div><br></div></div><div id="qt-yahoo_quoted_9634403230" class="qt-yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38, 40, 42);"><div>On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 04:03:02 PM MST, joe--- via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">PLUG Friends ... Need help updating:<br></div><div dir="ltr">(I hate updates and updating!)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have four (4) IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads with<br></div><div dir="ltr">these versions of Linux Mint installed.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">#1 T420 linux Mint version is 18.1 Serena<br></div><div dir="ltr">#2 T430 linux Mint version is 18.1 Serena<br></div><div dir="ltr">#3 T460 Linux Mint version is 20.1 Ulyssa<br></div><div dir="ltr">#4 T530 Linux Mint version is 19.1 Tessa<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">#1 is my primary computer and it is the<br></div><div dir="ltr">only one on which everything (mostly) works<br></div><div dir="ltr">the way I want it to work ... although it<br></div><div dir="ltr">has several problems because the OS cannot<br></div><div dir="ltr">be updated.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Every week, I back up all of my data to<br></div><div dir="ltr">the other three (3) and each of them have<br></div><div dir="ltr">various deficiencies and need to be updated.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">For more than a year, I tried to get #3 to<br></div><div dir="ltr">work in all respects as well as #1, but I<br></div><div dir="ltr">was unable to get four (4) virtual desktops<br></div><div dir="ltr">to work with unique screen backgrounds on<br></div><div dir="ltr">each one.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Now, #3 has developed problems because so many<br></div><div dir="ltr">things that had been working fine, no longer<br></div><div dir="ltr">work after I was coerced to do the latest update.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Among the problems, I got an error message that<br></div><div dir="ltr">said there was some defective program somewhere<br></div><div dir="ltr">on the system, and it said I should use some<br></div><div dir="ltr">program to find which program was defective,<br></div><div dir="ltr">but I cannot find how to do that.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I would be willing to pay someone (hopefully<br></div><div dir="ltr">someone in the East Valley) to help me get this<br></div><div dir="ltr">mess cleaned up and get all of my old Thinkpads<br></div><div dir="ltr">working the way they once did before blank blank<br></div><div dir="ltr">updates screwed up everything.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:Joe@Actionline.com">Joe@Actionline.com</a> ~ 480-325-5055<br></div><div dir="ltr">855 South 77th Place<br></div><div dir="ltr">East Mesa AZ<br></div><div dir="ltr">====<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div></div></div></div><div>---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div>PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div><a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>