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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hello,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> I appreciate this topic. I have been wondering for a while now if there is an affordable home server out there for EXSi and such. Is there any way for someone to come up with a few choices for people like me? Is there a low end, mid range, and high end home server for someone to list with parts or suggested parts?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">thanks,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Greg</div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 01:01:13 PM MST, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Thanks!!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 2023-07-20 11:36, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br clear="none">> I personally wouldn't even go for a used server. They're generally<br clear="none">> loud, and even when they aren't they use much more electricity than<br clear="none">> what you would get from a consumer platform. There's really no benefit<br clear="none">> unless you have room in your house to make a real server room with<br clear="none">> racks and the electrical capacity to go along with it.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Stephen Partington wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> the downside for these processors is their mainboards are still very<br clear="none">>> pricy to buy. much more than the CPU itself. you are almost better<br clear="none">>> off looking for and buying a refurbished server which you can get<br clear="none">>> for almost ludicrously inexpensive prices.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:56 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss<br clear="none">>> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> The CPU's cheap because it's old and no one wants them anymore --<br clear="none">>> it's of the same generation as 6000 series intel processors (i.e.<br clear="none">>> skylake). It also uses a server socket, so the only motherboards<br clear="none">>> you're going to be able to find are server motherboards. Those are<br clear="none">>> going to be expensive and/or have other quirks, such as requiring a<br clear="none">>> vendor specific heatsink, or a vendor-specific power supply, or take<br clear="none">>> 5 minutes to start up, etc.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> You'd be better off spending money on a last-gen cpu and<br clear="none">>> motherboard, for instance here's a combination that is relatively<br clear="none">>> cheap:<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> $174 for an i5-12400, which according to cpubenchmark.net [1] is<br clear="none">>> nearly 30% faster than the Xeon you linked (score of 19501 vs 15146,<br clear="none">>> much faster single-core score as well):<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/</a><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> $139 for a compatible motherboard:<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/</a><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> I also wouldn't pay so much attention to the number of "threads" you<br clear="none">>> think you'll need; you can run many VMs with a total number of<br clear="none">>> virtual processors that is much more than what you actually have,<br clear="none">>> and as long as you're not trying to go whole hog on every machine at<br clear="none">>> the same time you'll be fine, and even if you do, you'll still be<br clear="none">>> better off with a faster processor with a few fewer threads than an<br clear="none">>> older slower cpu with more.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss<br clear="none">>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> Hi,<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> I was surfing the Inter Web when I happened upon a Xeon server CPU.<br clear="none">>> It<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> is marked at $32.49 at Newegg. It has 12 cores and 24 threads and<br clear="none">>> has a<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> good benchmark score.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179" target="_blank">https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179</a><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon" target="_blank">https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon</a><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> In the future at some point I would like to build something with 20<br clear="none">>> plus<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> or minus cores and 40 threads more or less for Proxmox. This would<br clear="none">>> be<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> over kills because I only need 1 or 2 VMs active at one time...<br clear="none">>> maybe 3<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> in an extreme situation.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> This 12 core/24 thread CPU with 64Gb of Ram and a 1Tb SSD would<br clear="none">>> really<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> be more resources than I would ever need. Off the top of my head<br clear="none">>> this<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> means I might be able to build a decent Proxmox server for $500 -<br clear="none">>> $600.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> I do not need fancy video except for one VM that might be running<br clear="none">>> Win 10<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> or 11... I assume a server grade CPU would handle Win 10 and 11?<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> Am I on the right track?<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> Thank You For Your Feedback!!<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> Keith<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> ---------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> ---------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> --<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from<br clear="none">> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Stephen<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Links:<br clear="none">> ------<br clear="none">> [1] <a shape="rect" href="http://cpubenchmark.net" target="_blank">http://cpubenchmark.net</a><div class="yqt6215256665" id="yqtfd85814"><br clear="none">> ---------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">> PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br clear="none">> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br clear="none">---------------------------------------------------<br clear="none">PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br clear="none">To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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