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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thank you.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I realized back in 2007 there are four primary components to every computer system used since around 1970.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Unix/Linux now.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">SQL</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">the C programming language.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">and networking.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I have structured my education around those areas with success, but I didn't factor in the S1-B visa and its </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">impact.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Just bought this book and will start to read it:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Move-Fast-Break-Things-Undermined/dp/0316275751/ref=sr_1_1?crid=37GDAKBPV5905&keywords=move+fast+and+break+things&qid=1670895738&sprefix=move+fast+%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Move-Fast-Break-Things-Undermined/dp/0316275751/ref=sr_1_1?crid=37GDAKBPV5905&keywords=move+fast+and+break+things&qid=1670895738&sprefix=move+fast+%2Caps%2C187&sr=8-1</a><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">read this years ago, curious if anyone has heard of this:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Slack-Getting-Burnout-Busywork-Efficiency/dp/0767907698/ref=sr_1_1?crid=F7HXI1SNGKUY&keywords=slack+for+consultants&qid=1670895790&sprefix=slack+for+consultants%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Slack-Getting-Burnout-Busywork-Efficiency/dp/0767907698/ref=sr_1_1?crid=F7HXI1SNGKUY&keywords=slack+for+consultants&qid=1670895790&sprefix=slack+for+consultants%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-1</a><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">if you want to know what direction we are heading start with this:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/111967994X?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/111967994X?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details</a><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">WEF states you will own nothing and be happy. Future?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Electric vehicles where you will never travel outside the metropolis you live in for Green reasons.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Human-Drift-King-Camp-Gillette/dp/1298507987/ref=sr_1_1?crid=D49SW2QISHLC&keywords=human+drift&qid=1670895975&s=books&sprefix=humand+drift%2Cstripbooks%2C135&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Human-Drift-King-Camp-Gillette/dp/1298507987/ref=sr_1_1?crid=D49SW2QISHLC&keywords=human+drift&qid=1670895975&s=books&sprefix=humand+drift%2Cstripbooks%2C135&sr=1-1</a><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The idea has been around for a long time and now Google and Facebook will build your AI systems to control and satisfy your every</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">earthly need.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/World-Corporation-King-1855-1932-Gillette/dp/1376123940/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1670896048&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_1334250286">"World Corporation"</a><br></div><div><br></div><div id="ydp56e6c428enhancr_card_1334250286" class="ydp56e6c428yahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp56e6c428ymail-preserve-class ydp56e6c428ymail-preserve-style" style="max-width: 400px; 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There is plenty of money to go around. I propose a 12 month plan with </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">each goal in 3 months or 90 days <span style="font-family: Google Sans, Roboto, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(32, 33, 36);"><font size="3" style="background-color: inherit;">achievability</font></span><span style="font-family: Google Sans, Roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 28px; color: rgb(32, 33, 36);">.</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Achievement-Factory-Fulfill-Dreams-Adventure/dp/1499551193/ref=sr_1_1?crid=I28DBEQRGMKO&keywords=the+achievement+factory&qid=1670896898&sprefix=the+acheivement+factory%2Caps%2C188&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Achievement-Factory-Fulfill-Dreams-Adventure/dp/1499551193/ref=sr_1_1?crid=I28DBEQRGMKO&keywords=the+achievement+factory&qid=1670896898&sprefix=the+acheivement+factory%2Caps%2C188&sr=8-1</a><span style="font-family: Google Sans, Roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 28px; color: rgb(32, 33, 36);"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.ed2go.com/courses/computer-science/data-science" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ed2go.com/courses/computer-science/data-science</a><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">thanks,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Greg</div><div class="ydp271c48d6yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 06:28:56 PM MST, techlists@phpcoderusa.com <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Very thought provoking Greg!!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I think the number one position that I think is going to continue to <br></div><div dir="ltr">grow and outpace all others, no matter the economy, is probably cyber <br></div><div dir="ltr">security.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Not sure how I went down this path, however I have watched a number of <br></div><div dir="ltr">documentaries on hacking and getting a job in cyber security.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I find this stuff fascinating. One video talked about the Defcon hacker <br></div><div dir="ltr">convention in Las Vegas. Admission is in cash and your devices are <br></div><div dir="ltr">probably going to be owned. The video said the FBI was in attendance as <br></div><div dir="ltr">well.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm sure it is like anything else, some have natural talent to become <br></div><div dir="ltr">hackers.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">One of the videos I watched stated China has a goal of being able to go <br></div><div dir="ltr">toe to toe with the USA by 2025. Scary thought.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I would not like to displace anyone with a program, however that might <br></div><div dir="ltr">actually cause them to learn some marketable skills.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I have a lot of stories. Around the summer of 1980 I went to a warehouse <br></div><div dir="ltr">to buy some stuff with my father. There were 4 people in the office. <br></div><div dir="ltr">One filled out the purchase request. One pulled the product and <br></div><div dir="ltr">probably updated the product ledger. And one person took my father's <br></div><div dir="ltr">money and finalized the sale. Very people intensive.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">During that era computers were too expensive, however 5 or 6 years later <br></div><div dir="ltr">the commodore and garage 8088 cpu clones became available. At that <br></div><div dir="ltr">point I'm thinking I could replace several people in that warehouse with <br></div><div dir="ltr">a program that I would be able to create from scratch in just a couple <br></div><div dir="ltr">months. And this app would be able to give up the the minute info and <br></div><div dir="ltr">do things like determine seasonality and actual demand that could be <br></div><div dir="ltr">used to create safety stock.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Oh and to stay on track, If I were to write that program today it would <br></div><div dir="ltr">be a browser based PHP/MySQL app and might take me a little longer to <br></div><div dir="ltr">create because I would include a lot of AJAX. And of course it would run <br></div><div dir="ltr">on a LAMP server.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Keith<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On 2022-12-11 16:59, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hello,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> I don't want to offend anyone but I would like to express some<br></div><div dir="ltr">> thoughts on this subject. It seems after months of this discussion it<br></div><div dir="ltr">> might be a good<br></div><div dir="ltr">> idea to set aside a special email thread to discuss this material so<br></div><div dir="ltr">> others aren't annoyed by the comments and opinions that are<br></div><div dir="ltr">> non-technical. I actually<br></div><div dir="ltr">> have enjoyed this little discussion because it proves these subjects<br></div><div dir="ltr">> are important to everyone especially technically inclined individuals.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> As for my involvement in the subject of ethics I can point to a second<br></div><div dir="ltr">> year computer science course I took at SCC in the late 90's csc200.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> As the semester wound down to the final weeks the teacher said he<br></div><div dir="ltr">> wanted us to write a short essay on the subject of how technology can<br></div><div dir="ltr">> impact the lives of others. He proposed the question: "If you had to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> write a program that would put people out of their jobs would you do<br></div><div dir="ltr">> so and why?"<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> I remember he had us write out the ten commandments of computing in a<br></div><div dir="ltr">> program as the first programming assignment:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> CPSR - The Ten Commandments of Computer Ethics [1]<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> CPSR - THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF COMPUTER ETHICS<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> cjohnson<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Written by the Computer Ethics Institute<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> As a result I have researched and read many books on the subject so<br></div><div dir="ltr">> forgive me if we deviate a little. All of you mean something to me<br></div><div dir="ltr">> and others so<br></div><div dir="ltr">> lets not fight against one another.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Turning to Linux again, in the next year what subject would you study<br></div><div dir="ltr">> so that you would have the skills to find good reliable jobs and<br></div><div dir="ltr">> careers to provide<br></div><div dir="ltr">> for yourself?<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Lets come up with a plan that is broken down into 3 months for each<br></div><div dir="ltr">> skill so that each of us has what it takes to compete for and acquire<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the best jobs and maybe just maybe we can turn the economic ship in<br></div><div dir="ltr">> the direction it need go in for all of us.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Greg<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 06:13:06 AM MST, George Toft via<br></div><div dir="ltr">> PLUG-discuss <<a ymailto="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Part 2 on your 35% comment:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> with higher prices come higher wages and the gov't gets more taxes.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> After a few years, Congress will adjust the tax code, meanwhile the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> really low income folks who weren't paying much, pay quite a bit.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Regards,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> George Toft<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 12/2/2022 7:19 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Hi Ed,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> On 2022-12-01 22:37, Ed via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> you should look up the difference between a recession and a<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> depression. Odds are we will have a middling recession, but the<br></div><div dir="ltr">> real<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> problem is and will be inflation. Inflation is a ratchet, it only<br></div><div dir="ltr">> goes<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> in one direction and hits everyone and everything*. It's like a<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> network that has more and more noise on the line. For context,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> consider that people experience something like a half dozen<br></div><div dir="ltr">> recessions<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> in their lifetime - more or less. It's the business cycle.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I'm old so I have lived through more bad economies than good<br></div><div dir="ltr">> economies.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I think this one is going to be the worst of all.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> You already said it - you expect robotics to become more involved<br></div><div dir="ltr">> so<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> go do that. Just remember robots are capital intensive - so go with<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> the big.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I'm specializing in browser based business web apps. I like<br></div><div dir="ltr">> robotics,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> however at this station in my life it is probably not a good fit.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> *except for Japan and it's lost decade(s) - they had/have deflation<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> I think we are about to have really bad inflation for the next 10<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> years. Based on what I hear, the fed cannot raise interest rates<br></div><div dir="ltr">> high<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> enough to kill inflation because we have over 30 trillion in<br></div><div dir="ltr">> national<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> debt. It is my understanding that as they raise interest rates the<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> cost of servicing the debt goes up. Given that we may have to just<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> ride this out.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Another thought that is floating around is the Federal Gov. likes<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> inflation. Think about it. If we have 10% inflation for the next<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 10<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> years that means the value of national debt is reduced to 35% of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> what<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> is is today.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:13 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> Hi,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> I am reading and watching YouTube videos that say the economy is<br></div><div dir="ltr">> going<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> to tank to maybe as bad as the depression.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> If this is true what skills are going to be in demand.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> I suspect there will be a real push to automate things so I'm<br></div><div dir="ltr">> guessing<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> those who can create browser based business web apps and phone<br></div><div dir="ltr">> apps<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> will<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> be in high demand. That will equate to the administrator skills<br></div><div dir="ltr">> to<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> support such things.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> I also expect robotics to become more involved in factories,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> manufacturing, and even flipping burgers.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> What say you?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> Thanks!!<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> Keith<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> ---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>>> <a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> ---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>> <a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> ---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Links:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> ------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> [1] <a href="http://cpsr.org/issues/ethics/cei/" target="_blank">http://cpsr.org/issues/ethics/cei/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> ---------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">> PLUG-discuss mailing list: <a ymailto="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" href="mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br></div></div>
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