<div dir="ltr">No Stephen,<div><br></div><div>I'm saying I don't like administering this kind of thing. I'm willing to pay a service like $125.00 per year for a terabyte of storage, like I for for Google Drive, but if I do I want the risk management of my data--including business risk of bankruptcy, protection against data corruption and loss, protection against accidental or malicious access to my private information or data, and uptime to be comparable to Google's.</div><div><br></div><div>Trent</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 3:08 PM Stephen Partington <<a href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">nextcloud has a desktop client for most OS's Win, OX, and Linux of multiple varieties. but it otherwise runs as a website application. If you do not want to run a Linus box it runs well in docker or a vm, and they have ready-to-run images for you. I run it nicely as part of my unlimited hosting, but without a memory cache of any sort, it has moments of sluggishness. and The sync tool runs much like Google Drive sync or MS Onedrive you point it at one or moe directories. Once a change happens there it is replicated up and to other client machines.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><a href="https://nextcloud.com/instant-trial/" target="_blank">https://nextcloud.com/instant-trial/</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><a href="https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients" target="_blank">https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 2:49 PM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I enjoy programming a lot and dislike sysadmin (one reason I don't use a Linux desktop more. It's like owning a classic car. You're always tinkering with it. The other is "why won't Word ****### run on this!") <div><br></div><div>With that in mind are there any large, stable, reputable companies running nextcloud services for consumers. Can nextcloud services be integrated into GUI file browsers on the three OSes? (Maybe with something like FUSE or son-of-FUSE?) Some nice things about Google Drive and OneDrive is they are unlikely to abruptly go out of business taking my data with them and they are likely to keep my data more reliably and securely than I could (of course, they may use it for big data research, targeted marketing, and State can get access to it with just a subpoena, not a search warrant.) </div><div><br></div><div>Trent</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:14 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">+1 for nextcloud. I run a nextcloud instance at work and it is immensely powerful and remarkably straightforward to run. Nginx for me has been easier that apache (nextcloud has pushed me to learn and implement Nginx because of this) but it runs very well this way.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you decide to go this route use a memcache. Any of the 3 they suggest. It will be a huge performance boost. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:10 PM Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><br><p style="margin:0px">I have been running a hosted instance (digital ocean) with Nextcloud for years and it works perfectly for this almost exact scenario. </p>
<br><p style="margin:0px">It has problems with some hidden files such as .htaccess at times, but otherwise works fantastic. I have abandoned all other cloud platforms for it. Email, Calendar, files, and password management, and I have access everywhere, including my phone and tablet. </p>
<br><p style="margin:0px">There are free services out there that provide limited storage to a Nextcloud storage.</p>
<br><br><br><p style="margin:0px">On Thursday, November 17, 2022 10:56:49 AM CST trent shipley via PLUG-discuss wrote:</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> In this order I use Windows, Apple Mac, and Linux Mint.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">> Sometimes I'm working in LibreOffice, or Java, or Python, etc. and I get</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> stuck rotating between all three OSes. I mostly store my stuff or Google</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> Drive, but some on OneDrive. I can access both fine on Windows. Accessing</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> OneDrive from my iMac works OK. I've had the iMac unable to find files on</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> OneDrive and I couldn't figure out why. I haven't experimented with Google</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> Drive on Mint, but that's supposed to run OK. There doesn't seem to be a</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> sophisticated integration of Linux Mint and OneDrive.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">> LibreOffice and scripting languages work fine when placed on cloud drives.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> I couldn't compile Java source files if they lived on Google Drive and I</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> haven't tried OneDrive yet.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">> So my buried lead is "what consumer grade cloud storage inter-operates best</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> with all three OSes?" Linux always seems to be the laggard, so the</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> strategy might be to find services which work well with Linux *then* see</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> how that pool of solutions work with whatever Apple is calling OSX now and</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> with Windows.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">> Sorry for the hybrid desktop world question which is not focus on FOSS or</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> Linux.</p>
<p style="margin:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin:0px">> Trent</p>
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