<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>I personally would refrain from installing X windows on the host. There's nothing that you'll be able to do from xwindows that you can't do from the web interface, and running that will just take away resources that you'd otherwise be able to use for your virtual machines. Additionally, you might find yourself fighting with Proxmox as it expects to be able to control things like networking which your chosen desktop environment might interfere with.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Proxmox under the hood also doesn't use standard libvirt or lxc resources, so if your reason for installing it is to use the virtualization features outside the web interface then you're also going to be stepping on Proxmox's internal processes.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you want a machine that you can login to to do otherwise random things, just create a VM or container and connect to that. Otherwise treat Proxmox as an appliance, like you would a VMware Hypervisor host, and you'll have a much better time with it.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="auto">So. Proxmox under the hood is Debian. Virtualization only allow you to stack workloads proxmox has an extra layer of being set up to run containers as well as vms. That can run lean and share resources better. Bet part of this is you can install it on anything you can install Debian on. They even have docs on how to install x windows and run it as you a daily workstation as well as VM host. <br></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 10:35 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;padding-left:1ex;"><div>I have an i3 with 2 cores and 4 threads running an SSD. Seems like too <br></div><div> few resources for Proxmox? Your thoughts?<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> On 2022-10-09 10:29, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br></div><div> > On Sun, 2022-10-09 at 06:50 -0700, keith Miller via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br></div><div> >> Couple of items, I've used Promox for about 4-5 years now, very nice<br></div><div> >> hypervisor have had no problems what soever<br></div><div> >> I current run it on a Dell R-610 with 96Gig of ram and 6TB of HD, <br></div><div> >> hosting 5<br></div><div> >> linux servers and desktopsetup with about 8 domains and 1 email server <br></div><div> >> all<br></div><div> >> are Linux based, the mail server is awesome<br></div><div> >> system called Zimbra completely free, I'm hosting a number of open <br></div><div> >> source<br></div><div> >> decentralized social network, Peertube (Youtube work alike) , Mastodon<br></div><div> >> (Socal Network) , Piwigo (Picture hosting), OSSN (Social Network)<br></div><div> >> , WebTrees (Geniology), OsClass script (ForSale/Want ads), Simple <br></div><div> >> Machines<br></div><div> >> (Forum), WordPress (Blogging site)<br></div><div> >> So I use it alot<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Hi Keith,<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > The Proxmox docs seem to strongly encourage using RAID, but I have no <br></div><div> > business<br></div><div> > justification for the time and money involved in RAID. How well or<br></div><div> > poorly will it<br></div><div> > work just operating off 250GB SSD for / and a 6TB 7200rpm spinning rust <br></div><div> > for the<br></div><div> > rest?<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Also, space is at a premium in my house. Can I admin a Proxmox machine<br></div><div> > connected to<br></div><div> > my LAN, via the web interface, from my Daily Driver Desktop (DDD) also<br></div><div> > connected to<br></div><div> > my lan? I'd like to run my Proxmox machine headless except for very <br></div><div> > rare<br></div><div> > troubleshooting.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > I have a 2 core AMD machine with 16GB RAM and about 6TB of 7200<br></div><div> > spinning rust just<br></div><div> > hanging around (it's my old DDD). 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