<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3333ff"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">High gas prices.<br>unaffordable housing.<br>many households living paycheck to paycheck.<br>explosion in crime.<br>explosion in homelessness.<br>recreational drug use on the rise for a civilization like ours and you think this is normal?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>All the above are symptoms of the problem: our politicians sold us out to support foreign countries while pushing their own agendas. Politicians sold the trade agreements as a way for American businesses to make more money selling internationally, but they are competing with countries with much lower cost of living and much less stringent environmental standards. When politicians started passing laws that forced businesses to fund their agendas (like health care), the related overhead increase kicked off the migration of American manufacturing jobs to other countries. Within a decade, most of the manufacturing jobs left the USA. Politicians didn't think about 'the little people' and assumed they could just get training and other jobs; only some of them could. The current regime is really pushing green energy. I'm a fan of green energy, but it's just not ready to replace everything that already works. It costs more and doesn't work as well. Only upper-middle-class and above living in urban areas can afford green energy solutions; politicians are blind to that and so are a lot of proponents. </div><div><br>When our politicians created free trade agreements (that weren't fair to American businesses) almost all remaining manufacturing left the US along with the related jobs. Every time politicians meddle with businesses causing their overhead to increase, they cause a shift that hurts employees and consumers the most. We got cheap, crappy, Chinese goods that just don't last (made by people they have to put up nets to prevent them from committing suicide) and the 'throw it away' society that came with it. It hit a lot of American industries and I'm not sure we can get them back now. With costs going up, decent jobs requiring more skill and education, far fewer places to work for low-skilled workers,and even the so-called help always has rules that keep the people we are 'helping' poor (make more than X and you get nothing). it's not surprising a lot of poor people become homeless, resort to crime, and take drugs. Politicians need to think about 'the little people' as real people.</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 4:03 PM greg zegan <<a href="mailto:gjzegan@yahoo.com">gjzegan@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">On top of that in case you haven't noticed the homeless population has exploded in the Phoenix area.</div><div dir="ltr">Try ridding the bus-public transportation, with these people who sadly in some cases haven't had a bath </div><div dir="ltr">or shower in some time.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Its really sad that the American culture has been broken so badly that one has to help others see what </div><div dir="ltr">is in plain sight. We live adjacent to a state with arguably the worst homeless population in the country.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Have you ever stopped to ask yourself or others what is the cause of all this???????</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">High gas prices.</div><div dir="ltr">unaffordable housing.</div><div dir="ltr">many households living paycheck to paycheck.</div><div dir="ltr">explosion in crime.</div><div dir="ltr">explosion in homelessness.</div><div dir="ltr">recreational drug use on the rise for a civilization like ours and you think this is normal?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">$14 Billion in aid to Ukraine while all this is happening?</div><div dir="ltr">Where is that money going?</div><div dir="ltr">How about a hired mercenary army to fight Russia per the refuges from the Middle East. </div><div dir="ltr">Why do you think they pushed for EU to take in refuges from the middle East?</div><div dir="ltr">By the way, EU doesn't have children like the previous generations did and thee now </div><div dir="ltr">know it takes at least 2.0 children per couple to keep an empire alive so these people</div><div dir="ltr">from Africa and others are nothing but blood and treasure to these neo-cons.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Tech people are usually some of the smartest in a civilization historically speaking.</div><div dir="ltr">As per Thucydides the country that rules in technology rules the world. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Surely the breadth and width of your understanding goes further than these few talking points.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">How about this.</div><div dir="ltr">There is a real effort to turn us all in the West into a Socialistic civilization based on Plato's Republic.</div><div dir="ltr">Democracy?</div><div dir="ltr">Try a empire ruled by a Philosopher king as he stated in his book. The problem is there is no person </div><div dir="ltr">on this earth that is perfect and never will be. We have a Republic, not a Democracy in the USA.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dig a little deeper and try a little harder to understand your world. If you don't find the truth there are</div><div dir="ltr">many out there looking for the naïve to take advantage of.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Plato's Republic.</div><div dir="ltr">Plato's Meno.</div><div dir="ltr">Plato's Timaeus.</div><div dir="ltr">Plato's Protagoras.</div><div dir="ltr">St. Augustine's City of God.</div><div dir="ltr">Aristotle's Ethics.</div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(88,102,126);font-family:Poppins,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.2px;letter-spacing:-0.264px">Jean-Jacques Rousseau - </span></span>The Social Contract.</div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="color:rgb(88,102,126);font-family:Poppins,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.2px;letter-spacing:-0.264px">Jean-Jacques Rousseau - </span></span>Discourse on Inequality.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:35:25 PM MST, JD Austin <<a href="mailto:jd@twingeckos.com" target="_blank">jd@twingeckos.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-7062678736204436152yiv5891586673"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,255)">It hasn't been near $2 a gallon for 1.5 years. </div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,255)"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=AZ" target="_blank">https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=AZ</a><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,255)"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts" target="_blank">https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts</a><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div id="gmail-m_-7062678736204436152yiv5891586673yqt42382"><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:31 PM greg zegan <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:gjzegan@yahoo.com" target="_blank">gjzegan@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Are you kidding?</div><div dir="ltr">just over a year ago it was under $2 a gallon.</div><div dir="ltr">furthermore, who is going to commute to work in Phoenix in the coming months?</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:22:12 PM MST, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-7062678736204436152yiv5891586673gmail-m_671833723553389537yiv0617533599"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,255)">I just paid $4.49 at Costco which was only .07/gallon less than surrounding gas stations :(</div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,255)">I can only hope our national politicians pull their heads from their rectum and open domestic oil production again soon. </div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,255)">They're blaming Ukraine, but it was already approaching $4 before Russian invaded. </div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,255)">If anyone had doubts that overreliance on foreign supply chains could be problematic, the last several years should have made it clear. </div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,255)">I feel really sorry for poor people... how are they coping with these price increases everywhere?</div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div><div id="gmail-m_-7062678736204436152yiv5891586673gmail-m_671833723553389537yiv0617533599yqt98545"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">What is gas going for in arizona? It is around 4 a gallon in florida.<br clear="all"><div><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">:-)~MIKE~(-:</span><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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