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    <p>That's a good idea.  Here's an addition to it.  Have a second AA
      battery holder in parallel with the first.  Put in the new
      batteries before removing the old ones.  Or would that cause some
      problem I'm not thinking of?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/26/21 4:47 AM, Eric Oyen via
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      I had problems with those silly watch type batteries. So, my
      solution, which I have done to every machine of the desktop
      variety I have ever owned, was to take out said battery, wire in a
      AA holder and insert some rechargeable. Since it isn’t that hard,
      it turns out to be a low cost over time solution. Not recommended
      for laptops as the space is at a premium inside the case). Btw, a
      good set of rechargeable powering the RTC on board can literally
      last years between recharging. However, I always wanted to have a
      recharge circuit that would use the built-in switching supply to
      trickle charge the batteries when the machine is in operation.
      Never got around to doing that. However, replacing with freshly
      charged units and then correcting any time discrepancies resulting
      was easy enough to do (until I went total that is) Since no known
      firmware on any desktop or laptop is accessible for us totally
      blind technologists, I have to depend on someone else to take care
      of the finer points.
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      <div class="">Still, for what it is, this is a wonderful solution.</div>
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      <div class="">From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild,
        Innovations and Inventions Dept.</div>
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            <div class="">On Dec 23, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Michael via
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              <div dir="ltr" class="">How does one set it up so that
                arch doesn't need a cmos battery. Mine is going belly-up
                and I don't want to replace it. I was thinking I
                shouldn't need to with NTP. What do you think?<br
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