<div dir="ltr"><div>Sorry, CenturyLink.</div><div><br></div><div>-mb<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:41 PM <<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Sorry... who is CL?<br>
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On 2021-11-18 14:25, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
>>> You think CBS service is pricey compared to residential? I pay<br>
> $79/mo for CBS for Internet only.<br>
> <br>
> Well, admittedly I've not looked at CBS service in a while, I switched<br>
> from Cox to CL a few years ago when they implemented bandwidth caps,<br>
> and never really looked back, but that pricing seems not too bad now.<br>
> Someone probably realized folks were going elsewhere and decided to be<br>
> more competitive, plus with them offering even gig rates over cable,<br>
> 50mbps sounds like crap so they can sell it cheaper, but would<br>
> probably still be adequate for me as that's about what I had on<br>
> residential when I left cox years ago. My torrents might take a bit<br>
> longer, but that's ok, and I don't have a house of kids (or even<br>
> adults) all streaming netflix at the same time to need more.<br>
> <br>
> In the past, there was a significant drop in bandwidth for CBS from<br>
> residential services that took it well over 100 bucks (closer to $200)<br>
> to get a comparable CBS circuit, and because they've laxed a lot of<br>
> the port restrictions over the years simply wasn't necessary outside<br>
> maybe support to get someone out same-day if needed. Even when I<br>
> worked for them I thought it was overpriced.<br>
> <br>
> I can't complain too much about CL other than lately congestion in the<br>
> evenings I can quantify (which Cox would too), and 125mbps down for<br>
> $55/mo is a win/win in my book over cox at half the bandwidth and<br>
> paying some $25 more per month. In the few years I've been with them,<br>
> I've had no hard outages either. I can still https to my firewall for<br>
> vpn, all I really need. Something to be said for legacy 2-wire<br>
> technology where available if you don't need 100's of mbps or gig<br>
> rates (which most really still don't).<br>
> <br>
> -mb<br>
> <br>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:28 PM <<a href="mailto:techlists@phpcoderusa.com" target="_blank">techlists@phpcoderusa.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> You think CBS service is pricey compared to residential? I pay<br>
>> $79/mo<br>
>> for CBS for Internet only. I looked into residential a while ago<br>
>> and<br>
>> found that after that initial discount the cost of residential<br>
>> service<br>
>> for just Internet was about the same.<br>
>> <br>
>> The difference I found was T.V. channels. The packages differ.<br>
>> <br>
>> I may have hit my limit with running a server... may not need/want<br>
>> to go<br>
>> any further. Was satisfying to be able to be able to get things<br>
>> running<br>
>> though. Bind and Postfix/Dovecot where the challenges for me.<br>
>> Especially<br>
>> Postfix/Dovecot.<br>
>> <br>
>> On 2021-11-18 13:15, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
>>>>> I am told I can rent more static IPs... I assume I will need<br>
>> some<br>
>>> hardware to be able to accommodate more than 1 IP unless I am port<br>
>>> forwarding to different boxes.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Not really, just about any *nix-y system can accommodate that with<br>
>> NAT<br>
>>> as a firewall/router/gateway, whatever you want to call it, with<br>
>> one<br>
>>> ip or many. Even basic WRT-based systems ala netgear/linksys can<br>
>> tend<br>
>>> to handle this in theory with basic network iptables features.<br>
>>> Probably best would be something like pfsync, which there is<br>
>> plenty of<br>
>>> cheap gateway hardware out there that can run it, or any older<br>
>> (ie.<br>
>>> cheap) enterprise firewalls.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Old days the biggest reason for multiple ip's was SSL requiring<br>
>> 1:1 IP<br>
>>> to DNS binding, but this has gotten easier out of necessity with<br>
>> use<br>
>>> of Subject Alternative Names (SAN) as part of the certs. If you<br>
>> need<br>
>>> the same external port being forwarded to multiple internal<br>
>>> ports/services is about the only other reason for multiple ip's,<br>
>> but<br>
>>> as long as you can define separate ports for what is connecting to<br>
>> it,<br>
>>> not so much.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> When you get to the point you want to do so, more than few of us<br>
>> have<br>
>>> probably done so to help you through it and understand the<br>
>> concepts<br>
>>> once you know what you need/want to do.<br>
>>> <br>
>>>>> Cox Business does not block any ports.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> The only residential ports they block really relevant these days<br>
>> is 80<br>
>>> for http (not 443/https, so why 80??), and smtp for email, but<br>
>> these<br>
>>> days there is little reason to run your own smtp server unless<br>
>> you're<br>
>>> just doing it to do it or honeypot spammers trying to hit you 24/7<br>
>> for<br>
>>> no good reasons. I'd run sslvpn for remote access on https/443<br>
>> just<br>
>>> fine on res service, I just need to make sure to type https://.<br>
>>> <br>
>>>>> I am satisfied with Cox Business<br>
>>> <br>
>>> CBS service is just pricey (compared to residential) to begin<br>
>> with,<br>
>>> unlimited bandwidth and unblocked ports or not imho, but otherwise<br>
>>> about the best/cheapest "business class" service/support you can<br>
>> get,<br>
>>> if you can get it in your hood.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> -mb<br>
>>> <br>
>>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 12:04 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> I've had a Cox Business account for maybe 8 years. I've only had<br>
>>>> one<br>
>>>> outage, and it was short. My package is a home office type of<br>
>> plan.<br>
>>>> I<br>
>>>> am currently running a LAMP + BIND + Postfix + Dovecot on a<br>
>> laptop<br>
>>>> on my<br>
>>>> single static IP. I am told I can rent more static IPs... I<br>
>> assume<br>
>>>> I<br>
>>>> will need some hardware to be able to accommodate more than 1 IP<br>
>>>> unless<br>
>>>> I am port forwarding to different boxes.<br>
>>>> I configured this server on a laptop to see if I could do it. I<br>
>> am<br>
>>>> a<br>
>>>> PHP dev, with some light LAMP server experience. I still have a<br>
>> lot<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>> learn.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Cox Business does not block any ports.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Cox tells me there will never be any overages because on my plan<br>
>> I<br>
>>>> purchase a set up and down which cannot be exceeded.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I am satisfied with Cox Business<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> On 2021-11-14 11:21, Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
>>>>> Any recommendations for a reliable ISP?<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> (Couldn't find any recent discussion in the PLUG archives, so am<br>
>>>>> asking here.)<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I currently have a business account (I'm running a small server<br>
>> on<br>
>>>> a<br>
>>>>> static public IP address for my business), but am having a<br>
>>>> *terrible*<br>
>>>>> time with my current ISP. Worked *great* for about a year, but<br>
>>>> have<br>
>>>>> been having daily outages for about a month now.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Don't even want to say the name for fear of being sued for<br>
>> libel.<br>
>>>> They<br>
>>>>> were honest enough to admit it is an "internal issue", and have<br>
>> no<br>
>>>> ETA<br>
>>>>> on a fix. "[Their] technicians continue to work to resolve the<br>
>>>>> problem in [my] neighborhood. Currently, there is no estimated<br>
>>>> time<br>
>>>>> for when service will be restored."<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I get the feeling they don't have a grasp on the problem, as<br>
>> when<br>
>>>> I<br>
>>>>> call their status line they report an outage even when the<br>
>> system<br>
>>>> is<br>
>>>>> up. When my connection goes down, a modem reboot sometimes (but<br>
>>>> not<br>
>>>>> always) gets me connected again.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Speed is not an issue. But reliability is! Any suggestions<br>
>> would<br>
>>>> be<br>
>>>>> greatly appreciated.<br>
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