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    <p>Chances are you are not running Apache, so what you observed is
      normal behavior.<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Regards,

George Toft
</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/9/2021 4:54 PM, Michael via
      PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">thanks guys. I don't apach or something like that
        running on my system. I am learning so much!</div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 7:17 PM
          Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <<a
            href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"
            moz-do-not-send="true">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">
            <div>Are you running a local web server on port tcp/80/443,
              otherwise why connection to localhost?  You need a server
              like apache, nginx, or whatever web server listening on
              80/443 for a browser to find a webpage on localhost, which
              is your system.  Otherwise the browser won't find a socket
              to connect to let alone a web page, which is what it's
              telling you.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>## this will show you anything listening locally on
              http|https ports and what app did it<br>
            </div>
            <div>sudo ss -tpl | grep http</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>## try to connect if you think you should see an open
              socket from above, below fails<br>
            </div>
            <div>[~]# telnet 127.0.0.1 80<br>
              Trying 127.0.0.1...<br>
              telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection
              refused</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>No active firewall right?<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>If you wanted to you can limit host access to bind
              external sockets like 80/443, or whatever to only <a
                href="http://127.0.0.0/8" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">127.0.0.0/8</a> meaning only
              local processes can access sockets, not even someone on
              your local lan.  This is a security practice in
              application cases for high-speed caching or inter-process
              communications local to this system only.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>-mb<br>
            </div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at
              12:24 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <<a
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              wrote:<br>
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              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div>the browser shows the error as: <br>
                </div>
                <div>The site could be temporarily unavailable or too
                  busy. Try again in a few moments.</div>
                    If you are unable to load any pages, check your
                computer’s network connection.<br>
                    If your computer or network is protected by a
                firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted
                to access the Web.<br>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>I need to specify a port. Cool. That's all I needed
                  to know.<br>
                </div>
                <br>
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              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at
                  3:05 PM James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss <<a
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                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Regarding the original question of why
                    the browser is saying "problem with address", what
                    is the actual error?  Name resolution, connection,
                    cert, etc etc?  Those friendly human readable errors
                    leave too much open to interpretation.</div>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 9,
                      2021 at 11:59 AM Snyder, Alexander J via
                      PLUG-discuss <<a
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                      wrote:<br>
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                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
                      0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                      rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                        <span
                          style="color:rgb(189,193,198);font-family:roboto,"helvetica
neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(48,49,52)">The
                          IP address range </span><b
style="max-height:999999px;color:rgb(189,193,198);font-family:roboto,"helvetica
neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(48,49,52)">127.0.</b><span
style="color:rgb(189,193,198);font-family:roboto,"helvetica
neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(48,49,52)"> </span><b
style="max-height:999999px;color:rgb(189,193,198);font-family:roboto,"helvetica
neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(48,49,52)">0.0
                          – 127.255.</b><span
                          style="color:rgb(189,193,198);font-family:roboto,"helvetica
neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(48,49,52)"> </span><b
style="max-height:999999px;color:rgb(189,193,198);font-family:roboto,"helvetica
neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(48,49,52)">255.255</b><span
style="color:rgb(189,193,198);font-family:roboto,"helvetica
neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:18px;background-color:rgb(48,49,52)"> is
                          reserved for loopback, i.e. a Host's
                          self-address, also known as localhost address.
                          This loopback IP address is managed entirely
                          by and within the operating system.</span>
                        <div dir="auto"><font face="roboto, helvetica
                            neue, arial, sans-serif" color="#bdc1c6"><br>
                          </font>
                          <div dir="auto">Thanks,<br>
                            Alexander.<br>
                            <br>
                            Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G</div>
                        </div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 9,
                          2021, 11:58 greg zegan via PLUG-discuss <<a
href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
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                          style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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                            <div style="font-family:"Helvetica
                              Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
                              <div dir="ltr"><a
                                  href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost"
                                  rel="nofollow noreferrer"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">localhost</a><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
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id="gmail-m_7025975101289008685gmail-m_-2119328047477657204gmail-m_1214679299624805452gmail-m_4443314583915350186gmail-m_-1054344273204047784m_2324682644924120948ydp6fb6f73denhancr_card_4014929913"
style="max-width:400px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica
                                Neue","Segoe
                                UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost"
                                  style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)"
                                  rel="nofollow noreferrer"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                                  <table style="max-width:400px"
                                    cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
                                    border="0">
                                    <tbody>
                                      <tr>
                                        <td width="400">
                                          <table
style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);border-radius:2px"
                                            width="100%" cellspacing="0"
                                            cellpadding="0" border="0">
                                            <tbody>
                                              <tr>
                                                <td>
                                                  <table
                                                    style="background:none
                                                    0% 0% repeat scroll
rgb(255,255,255);width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px
                                                    2px;border-top:1px
                                                    solid
                                                    rgb(224,228,233)"
                                                    cellspacing="0"
                                                    cellpadding="0"
                                                    border="0">
                                                    <tbody>
                                                      <tr>
                                                        <td
                                                          style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);padding:16px
                                                          0px 16px
                                                          12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0px
                                                          0px 0px 2px"><br>
                                                        </td>
                                                        <td
                                                          style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px
                                                          24px 16px
                                                          12px;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica
Neue","Segoe
                                                          UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-radius:0px
                                                          0px 2px">
                                                          <h2
                                                          style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px
                                                          0px
                                                          6px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica
Neue","Segoe
                                                          UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);max-width:314px">localhost</h2>
                                                          <p
style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151,155,167)">The
                                                          local loopback
                                                          mechanism may
                                                          be used to run
                                                          a network
                                                          service on a
                                                          host without
                                                          requiring a
                                                          physical
                                                          network...</p>
                                                        </td>
                                                      </tr>
                                                    </tbody>
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                                            </tbody>
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                                      </tr>
                                    </tbody>
                                  </table>
                                </a></div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div dir="ltr">you need to specify the
                                port number</div>
                              <div dir="ltr"><br>
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                              <div><br>
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                              <div><br>
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Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
                                <div> On Saturday, October 9, 2021,
                                  02:29:07 PM EDT, Michael via
                                  PLUG-discuss <<a
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                                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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                                  wrote: </div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Are the addresses for
                                      localhost 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1
                                      ? That was a rhetorical question.
                                      What isn't rhetorical is why, when
                                      I enter either of those addresses
                                      into a browser , do I get a
                                      'problem with address' page? Are
                                      there<br>
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