<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Inline:</div><div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 4:26 PM Matt Graham via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2020-11-06 18:28, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 07:48:40 -0700<br>
> Michael Butash wrote:<br>
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This is definitely not a common thing. I have never had more than one <br>
profile. Then again, I have only worked for one company at a time, <br>
never 6 at the same time. Don't you also have something crazy like 4 <br>
monitors at the same time?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't like it either, as my memory footprint grows exponentially with each. Office365/Teams is the goddamn devil here, as I tend to always work for microsoft-y companies, and they simply do not work well if logged into separate domains/orgs for me unless I keep them segregated to profiles in either Chrome or Firefox. This was a recommendation from gsuite support when I first opened my business and had a hard time keeping things separate even between personal and work. Microshite's Teams app under linux hasn't figured out how to log into multiple domains/orgs at once (ffs, just copy Slack features), so I have to run them all in different browsers.<br></div><div><br></div><div>And yeah, a bit crazy probably, 3x 4k/60 displays (laptop built-in + 2x 4k tv's via TB3 dock). Before it was 6x 1080p's... :)<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> Chrome/Chromium and Firefox are absolute pigs. I finally tamed Firefox<br>
> by setting it to drop all cache and other stuff upon exit, and then I<br>
> shut down all instances of Firefox every day.<br>
<br>
While I don't do that, I find I need to do that every week or so. I <br>
have noticed that on OS X firefox, any animated GIF displayed in the <br>
active tab causes CPU usage to skyrocket and the fan to start blowing. <br>
Guess how many cow-orkers constantly post animated emojis in the work <br>
Slack instance?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I have this bit of an issue too with Teams. Running each profile, I keep firefox Task Manager pinned, and watch what are the worst offenders. Worst is always M$ teams using 300-400mb ram, O365 email/calendar second, Hangouts, Gmail, Gcalendar a bit under, and rest get tab suspended regularly. Still somehow across numerous profiles, Firefox feels it needs 30-40gb of memory<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> What the heck kind of editor requires 3-4GB RAM? That sounds crazy to<br>
> me. Why do you have a few dozen files open simultaneously?<br>
<br>
As a counterpoint, kate with 10 files open has an RSS of 132M. Having <br>
36 files open in an editor seems a bit crazy to me as well, but I <br>
usually have 3 to 6 files open in vim, and vim like most text editors <br>
loads the entire file into memory. 36 files that are all 86M or so <br>
would easily account for 3G. Text files that are written by people are <br>
almost never that large, but log files....<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Don't disagree here, but figure I'm not the only one working with large text blobs either that this seems a nasty issue. Maybe a better question is if there is a better software. Sadly there's no IDE's for dealing with Cisco, Juniper, Arista, PAN, etc, so my life revolves around raw text at times, and lots of it. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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> Libreoffice is kind of a pig. Is there something else you can use? And<br>
> why a dozen or two simultaneous files open? This sounds like a <br>
> workflow nightmare. Do you mean one Libreoffice instance with 24 files open<br>
<br>
That seems the most likely scenario.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Just one Libreoffice with a lot of files. Nice part is I can kill -9 it and reopen right back to where I was at. Again, multiple customers, multiple docs, price lists from vendors, sometimes rather complex formulas I use for configuration generation, Libreoffice does a _lot_ for me and how I work, but hell, it tends to use less memory than my text editor even if ~4gb of ram.<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
2015-vintage machine, 8G. I started KDE on Oct. 20, and top says 3912 <br>
M used. Most of this is firefox, not KDE, though. Maybe this is a <br>
distro thing? Gentoo is somewhat more conservative than most distros <br>
when it comes to versions and features. Also I've turned baloo off. I <br>
don't need "file indexing", I can use grep -r like a normal person. :-P<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Interesting note on baloo - every now and then it's gone mad for me and I've killed it. I know where my files are, I really don't need an idiot search either. Good point.<br></div><div> </div><div>I used ubuntu for years, it wasn't much if any more memory friendly. I moved to arch trying to help that, but really about the same. Not tried gentoo in years, but suspect it's more usage than the distro hearing some of the input.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
AMD FX 3.8 GHz 4-core, 8G, no special handling of firefox. However, I <br>
only have one browser profile and generally only one browser window, no <br>
VMs running, only 1 monitor, and rarely use LibreOffice. Current GUI <br>
things are 1 Barrier, 2 Dolphin windows, 2 Gwenview windows, 1 konsole, <br>
1 kcalc, 1 GNUcash, 1 Gimp, 1 System Settings, 1 Firefox window with 13 <br>
tabs, and the general KDE stuff that runs in the background. Note that <br>
YMMV.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So just some perspective, right now for apps::</div><div><br></div><div>Slack (logged into 6 different orgs), Telegram, Postman, and Signal all as (slovenly) Electron apps.</div><div>Libreoffice with ~20 docs of varying complexity. <br></div><div>About 20 pluma text files of varying text sizes (30-50mb a piece on some, yes big).</div><div>Two windoze vms, one linux network management server, a file harvesting appliance of mine (weekend show time), and a tails vm. ~20gb ram allocated hard.</div><div>Few dolphin windows for file movement.</div><div>Pulseaudio Volume Control (which in itself has been notorious for memory leaks).</div><div>Firefox, 5-6 profiles, half-dozen tabs at least, some far more.</div><div>Rhythmbox for music beats.<br></div><div>Fairly current KDE 5.19.5.</div><div><br></div><div>This gets a bit crazier during the week(s), but this is my staple, just perhaps scales more horizontal than I probably should.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Really appreciate the feedback here all!</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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