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</head><body text="#000000">I have both Cox fiber and CL fiber running
into my firewall. Cox gets slightly better download scores on average
from the iperf3 server we maintain in our DC. 910Mb/s Cox to 880Mb/s CL.
That could be the PPPoE overhead when having to adjust the MTU, and you
need to adjust the MTU down for best performance with CL. I found my
sweet spot @ 1488MTU. The upload however - well that is a different
story. Cox struggles to reliably provide bast 350Mb/s upload. CL
consistently is in the 810-840Mb/s range.<br>
<br>
The reality, other than data caps, is that Cox would be adequate for my
use - but, I definitely do not get even close to promise with Cox.<br>
<br>
I am running an 8 core C2758 with 16GB RAM, an SSD, and pfSense for the
OS for my FW. It maintains the PPPoE connection, 2 OpenVPN client
connections and an OpenVPN server.<br>
<br>
I have the CL plumbed as the primary connection with Cox as the BU -
because to hell with paying an extra $40/month for unlimited data
through Cox for what CL provides free. That being said - the 95th
percentile on my CL connection is ~225Mb/s down and ~95Mb/s Up, so there
is no need for me to load balance to meet capacity at this time.<br>
<br>
I also do public SpeedTest metrics to my Grafana server to share. These
are both from Mesa to SparkLight speedtest server over past 24 hours.<br>
<br>
CL's ping has been climbing lately.<br>
<br>
Cox speedtest to the Cox speedtest server is much better and more
consistent - but nearly everything I use the internet for is outside the
Cox network, so that measurement doesn't do me any good. I know I have
delivered some unpopular onions on this topic in this forum before. Here
is some of the data to support it. I have speedtests that run every 4
hours with cox, and every 2 with CL. I have speedtests to an San Jose,
CA based speedtest server as well from both. I'll save cox the
embarrassment. Their peering outside the valley is subpar at best - and
criminal in my opinion for the claims of service.<br>
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alt=""><img src="cid:part2.43E41FFB.D5B32C63@oscontext.com"
name="CoxSpeed.png" alt=""><br>
<br>
My $0.02, but with data.<br>
<br>
Mac<br>
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<span>Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote on 8/25/20 11:02 AM:</span><br>
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<div dir="ltr"><div>It's hard to do real service testing, unless you
have a hookup at an isp that runs their iperf3 server on a 10gbe+ nic.
The web ones are meh, I could only test most to around a gig or less,
and somewhat unreliably even on a 10gbe service. A few in speedtest we
could throw a 10gbe server against being in LA for more, but only get
roughly under 2gbps max.</div><div><br></div><div>Using CL, I just know I
see congestion issues with upstream peering even on my lowly dsl here,
but I imagine they probably oversubscribe the hell out of the network as
it is. Why I was wondering how the gig service holds up.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-mb</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug
25, 2020 at 9:37 AM Stephen Partington <<a
href="mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">cryptworks@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div
dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif">I am not seeing any performance degradation from ppoe vs
not. I used this same device with Cox Fiber gigablast and the speeds and
rates are nearly identical.</div><div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div
class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">I
chose the ERLite specifically for its ability to shove lots of packets.
And while that is not the true measure of performance it was a metric
that I am not regretting that I used.</div></div><br><div
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 25,
2020 at 8:14 AM Michael Butash <<a href="mailto:michael@butash.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">michael@butash.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Do you see
any performance issues with having to use pppoe there with gigabit
rates?<br></div><div><br></div><div>I ask because some devices, even my
home Fortigate unit tend to have performance issues because of pppd
having to run in userland to shuffle packets then, and has been an issue
in various vendor devices over time. My fortigate is large enough
(100D) I don't see issues with my 150mbps bonded dsl here, but a buddy
with one step down in a fortigate (90D) said he had to replace it on the
same service. I'd imagine if I could get gigabit and use it, I'd need a
new box.<br></div><div><br></div><div>One thing I really liked about
cable modems, is they figured out how to handle security outside your
client, so no pppoe weirdness at the modem or firewall. I can't believe
CL still forces that even on their fiber...<br></div><div><br></div><div>-mb</div><div><br></div></div><br><div
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 24,
2020 at 10:33 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <<a
href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I am running
this config right now. Specifically edgerouter lite.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div
dir="auto">Left the ont unchanged. Carried over the vlan config and the
PPPoE config. Was freakishly simple and smooth. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div
dir="auto">Let me know if you have any questions. </div></div><br><div
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 24,
2020, 10:19 PM Carlton Brooks via PLUG-discuss <<a
href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Does anyone out in PLUG land
have a Unifi USG gateway and Century Link <br>
fiber installed.<br>
<br>
There are many discussions on the google machine each person has a <br>
slightly different setting.<br>
<br>
I am an experienced amature, but usually muddle my way through things.<br>
<br>
If someone who has done this and can walk me through it I would be
grateful.<br>
<br>
Mush appreciate<br>
<br>
Carlton Brooks<br>
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