<div dir="auto"><div>Looking at those tests it seems the 17% seems to be in memory speed not CPU speed. The biggest difference was 13 seconds for a winter compression. I would get 2 16gb sticks instead of 2 8gb sticks then, if you don't want the single hit. My point is if you use 8gb sticks and fill the slots to 32gb and decide you need more you wasted money on the 8gb sticks. I personally will put 32gb sticks in my machine when I upgrade.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 9:35 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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You can do that but you will take a speed hit. Computers these days
will read the RAM in pairs for a speed increase. The testing in the
article below saw a 17.7% speed increase by using dual channel
memory on some loads.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel</a><br>
<br>
Brian Cluff<br>
<br>
<div>On 7/19/20 9:24 AM, Bob Elzer via
PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">My only suggestion on this machine is to use a
16gb stick, just so if you ever decide you need more memory you
won't have to replace the smaller sticks. With 16gb sticks you
can have 64gb total. If you ever think you might like to have
128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb memory stick.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM
Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Just an idea and ballpark cost. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11
AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">yeah? I
was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered
separately.<br>
As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to
indicate I<br>
only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with
what you<br>
have!<br>
*-usb:0<br>
*-usbhost<br>
bus info: usb@1<br>
logical name: usb1<br>
capabilities: usb-2.00<br>
*-usb<br>
bus info: usb@1:1<br>
capabilities: usb-2.00<br>
*-usb:1<br>
*-usbhost<br>
bus info: usb@2<br>
logical name: usb2<br>
capabilities: usb-2.00<br>
*-usb<br>
bus info: usb@2:1<br>
capabilities: usb-2.00<br>
*-usb:0<br>
bus info: <a href="mailto:usb@2:1.4" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">usb@2:1.4</a><br>
capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00<br>
configuration: driver=btusb
speed=12Mbit/s<br>
*-usb:1<br>
bus info: <a href="mailto:usb@2:1.7" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">usb@2:1.7</a><br>
capabilities: usb-2.00<br>
*-usb:0<br>
bus info: <a href="mailto:usb@2:1.7.2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">usb@2:1.7.2</a><br>
capabilities: usb-1.10<br>
configuration: driver=usbhid
maxpower=100mA<br>
speed=2Mbit/s<br>
*-usb:1<br>
bus info: <a href="mailto:usb@2:1.7.3" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">usb@2:1.7.3</a><br>
capabilities: usb-2.00<br>
configuration: driver=usbhid
maxpower=98mA<br>
speed=2Mbit/s<br>
*-usb:2<br>
bus info: <a href="mailto:usb@2:1.7.4" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">usb@2:1.7.4</a><br>
capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi
emulated scsi-host<br>
configuration: driver=usb-storage<br>
maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s<br>
<br>
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via
PLUG-discuss<br>
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><br>
> It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will
have a big enough<br>
> power supply to support that many hard drives. If
you could get that<br>
> many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard
drive to fail<br>
> rather quickly on a NUC. You would need to get some
sort of external<br>
> USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power
supply to make it<br>
> work right. I would only do that if your NUC has
USB3 and the enclosure<br>
> also is USB3. USB2 would just make your storage
painfully slow.<br>
><br>
> An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially
attached directly to a<br>
> mini PCIe port. Since it can be accessed at PCIe
speeds it isn't bottle<br>
> necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in
gigabytes per second.<br>
> Or in other words it makes everything hard drive
related happen<br>
> instantly. Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3
seconds. Login<br>
> times are virtually instant. When you first get one,
you will tell your<br>
> computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was
logout until you<br>
> realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to
the login screen in<br>
> less time than your old computer could just logout.<br>
><br>
> Brian Cluff<br>
><br>
> On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
> > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only
5yo with 2 years of use.<br>
> > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what
I';m thinking about doing<br>
> > with the NUC?<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via
PLUG-discuss<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
> >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in
the list.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I would also make sure that you get a
motherboard that has a place for<br>
> >> at least 1 NVMe. Then I would recommend
that you get at least one<br>
> >> NVMe. It doesn't have to be huge, but if
you can put at least your OS<br>
> >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine
feel 50 times faster than<br>
> >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard
drive.... Trust me, it will be<br>
> >> worth every cent to get it.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I would also recommend getting an AMD
machine right now. You can get a<br>
> >> whole lot more for your money right now with
AMD.<br>
> >><br>
> >> BTW What's the price range you are looking
at spending?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Brian Cluff<br>
> >><br>
> >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via
PLUG-discuss wrote:<br>
> >>> I think I figured out what I want to
do..... I'm going to buy a<br>
> >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power
supply and then frankenstein the<br>
> >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the
video card from the old machine<br>
> >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can).
What else could I frankenstein?<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael
<<a href="mailto:bmike1@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer
noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bmike1@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I
never have done before..... I'm<br>
> >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I
think I'll have one put<br>
> >>>> together.... I'll put it together.
Where would go to get a chassis and<br>
> >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the
other guts in. Is such an animal<br>
> >>>> in existence?I thought of another
NUC but they aren't like what they<br>
> >>>> were. Should I wait until black
Friday and get a windows machine in the sales?<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> --<br>
> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
> >>><br>
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