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    Hows the temperature of your video card?  Does it have a fan on it?<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Might the problem still be the he</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:37
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                ms,sans-serif">68C under load is good. 80C+ idle is bad.</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at
                12:35 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <<a
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                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">lets get back to
                heat... last time I was running glx (with the horse<br>
                and various other pictures) and watch, and stress ng the
                temp was like<br>
                68. I don't think that is too bad.<br>
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                On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:19 PM Brian Cluff via
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                > Looks like your drive probably isn't the problem.<br>
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                > Brian Cluff<br>
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                > On 7/16/20 11:54 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss
                wrote:<br>
                > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:37 AM Brian Cluff
                via PLUG-discuss<br>
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                wrote:<br>
                > >> Also check the health of your hard drive
                with smartctl. I've hard<br>
                > >> systems freeze on me because my hard drive
                was dying that then appear to<br>
                > >> work again for a while after a reboot. 
                Basically your drive starts<br>
                > >> throwing errors and eventually the system
                remounts it as read only and<br>
                > >> your system eventually freaks out and
                freezes because it can't write to<br>
                > >> the drive anymore.<br>
                > > I sure hope this is the problem. It'll give me
                an excuse to put an ssd<br>
                > > in the machine.<br>
                > > This is from live media boot. I'll see if I
                can freeze the system<br>
                > > again.... it did when I tried it before but it
                hasn't frozen for a<br>
                > > couple of days now.<br>
                > >   sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda<br>
                > > smartctl 7.1 2019-12-30 r5022
                [x86_64-linux-5.4.0-26-generic] (local build)<br>
                > > Copyright (C) 2002-19, Bruce Allen, Christian
                Franke, <a href="http://www.smartmontools.org"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">www.smartmontools.org</a><br>
                > ><br>
                > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===<br>
                > > Model Family:     Western Digital Caviar Blue
                (SATA)<br>
                > > Device Model:     WDC WD3200AAKS-75L9A0<br>
                > > Serial Number:    WD-WMAV2S110171<br>
                > > LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 057775228<br>
                > > Firmware Version: 02.03E02<br>
                > > User Capacity:    320,072,933,376 bytes [320
                GB]<br>
                > > Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical<br>
                > > Device is:        In smartctl database [for
                details use: -P show]<br>
                > > ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not
                indicated)<br>
                > > SATA Version is:  SATA 2.5, 3.0 Gb/s<br>
                > > Local Time is:    Thu Jul 16 18:33:20 2020 UTC<br>
                > > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART
                capability.<br>
                > > SMART support is: Enabled<br>
                > ><br>
                > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===<br>
                > > SMART overall-health self-assessment test
                result: PASSED<br>
                > ><br>
                > > General SMART Values:<br>
                > > Offline data collection status:  (0x84)   
                Offline data collection activity<br>
                > >                      was suspended by an
                interrupting command from host.<br>
                > >                      Auto Offline Data
                Collection: Enabled.<br>
                > > Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The
                previous self-test<br>
                > > routine completed<br>
                > >                      without error or no
                self-test has ever<br>
                > >                      been run.<br>
                > > Total time to complete Offline<br>
                > > data collection:         ( 6000) seconds.<br>
                > > Offline data collection<br>
                > > capabilities:              (0x7b) SMART
                execute Offline immediate.<br>
                > >                      Auto Offline data
                collection on/off support.<br>
                > >                      Suspend Offline
                collection upon new<br>
                > >                      command.<br>
                > >                      Offline surface scan
                supported.<br>
                > >                      Self-test supported.<br>
                > >                      Conveyance Self-test
                supported.<br>
                > >                      Selective Self-test
                supported.<br>
                > > SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)   
                Saves SMART data before entering<br>
                > >                      power-saving mode.<br>
                > >                      Supports SMART auto save
                timer.<br>
                > > Error logging capability:        (0x01)   
                Error logging supported.<br>
                > >                      General Purpose Logging
                supported.<br>
                > > Short self-test routine<br>
                > > recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.<br>
                > > Extended self-test routine<br>
                > > recommended polling time:      (  73) minutes.<br>
                > > Conveyance self-test routine<br>
                > > recommended polling time:      (   5) minutes.<br>
                > > SCT capabilities:            (0x3037)    SCT
                Status supported.<br>
                > >                      SCT Feature Control
                supported.<br>
                > >                      SCT Data Table supported.<br>
                > ><br>
                > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision
                number: 16<br>
                > > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with
                Thresholds:<br>
                > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE
                WORST THRESH TYPE<br>
                > > UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE<br>
                > >    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200 
                 200   051    Pre-fail<br>
                > > Always       -       0<br>
                > >    3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   138 
                 133   021    Pre-fail<br>
                > > Always       -       4075<br>
                > >    4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   089 
                 089   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       11090<br>
                > >    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200 
                 200   140    Pre-fail<br>
                > > Always       -       0<br>
                > >    7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100 
                 253   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       0<br>
                > >    9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   019 
                 019   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       59593<br>
                > >   10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100 
                 100   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       0<br>
                > >   11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100 
                 100   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       0<br>
                > >   12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   098 
                 098   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       2282<br>
                > > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   199 
                 199   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       1044<br>
                > > 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   197 
                 197   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       11090<br>
                > > 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   105 
                 080   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       38<br>
                > > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200 
                 200   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       0<br>
                > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200 
                 200   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       0<br>
                > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   200 
                 200   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Offline      -       0<br>
                > > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200 
                 200   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       0<br>
                > > 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   200 
                 200   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Offline      -       0<br>
                > > 240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0032   024 
                 024   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       55990<br>
                > > 241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   200 
                 200   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       78243499218<br>
                > > 242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0032   200 
                 200   000    Old_age<br>
                > > Always       -       174621575474<br>
                > ><br>
                > > SMART Error Log Version: 1<br>
                > > No Errors Logged<br>
                > ><br>
                > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number
                1<br>
                > > Num  Test_Description    Status               
                  Remaining<br>
                > > LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error<br>
                > > # 1  Short offline       Completed without
                error       00%     14352         -<br>
                > > # 2  Short offline       Completed without
                error       00%         0         -<br>
                > ><br>
                > > SMART Selective self-test log data structure
                revision number 1<br>
                > >   SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS<br>
                > >      1        0        0  Not_testing<br>
                > >      2        0        0  Not_testing<br>
                > >      3        0        0  Not_testing<br>
                > >      4        0        0  Not_testing<br>
                > >      5        0        0  Not_testing<br>
                > > Selective self-test flags (0x0):<br>
                > >    After scanning selected spans, do NOT
                read-scan remainder of disk.<br>
                > > If Selective self-test is pending on power-up,
                resume after 0 minute delay.<br>
                > ><br>
                > > Well, I am running glmark2, watch, and
                stress-ng for about (one round<br>
                > > of glmark2) with no freeze.  all from live
                media<br>
                > > --<br>
                > > :-)~MIKE~(-:<br>
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